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1. Why do you guys think it’s broken? It wasn’t broken when they left NYC so how is it broken now?
I think it’s broken because Emma is without her memories. I think when she forgot everything, the dream catcher magically broke. It will only be fixed when TLK happens between SF
2. Do you think Emma took it with her when she left?
I do. I think she saw the camera, ran out the door, paused, went back into the apartment slowly and put it in her bag
[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"I was thinking about the dreamcatcher. What if it IS a clue to what happens to Neal, that he gets caught in a nightmare world that he and Belle need to journey through in order to get Rumple back? Of course, Belle loses her memory and Rumple ends up being controlled by Zelena so no one would know where he is or what happened to him until Zelena is defeated.
I can’t imagine they’d just be careless with a prop like that, and even if they were, that they couldn’t replace it so it had to be deliberate. Maybe it just means “time passed” but as with that letter Emma found, I do wonder. I also wonder if she took it with her or not.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
I just re-watched the scene when Emma is investigating Neal’s apartment again. I’m fairly confident that Emma stuck the dreamcatcher in her purse, which she had when she bailed Hook out of jail and drank the potion! That could mean Emma’s talisman is indeed the dreamcatcher! 🙂
Here is the scene to watch again:
I made a few screen grabs to support this notion.
A full view of the dream catcher for reference:
You can see what looks to be a feather attached to a piece of string.
You can see what looks to be the string from which the dreamcatcher was hung in Emma’s bag."That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
I just re-watched the scene when Emma is investigating Neal’s apartment again. I’m fairly confident that Emma stuck the dreamcatcher in her purse, which she had when she bailed Hook out of jail and drank the potion! That could mean Emma’s talisman is indeed the dreamcatcher! 🙂
*makes some sort of inhuman noise that frightens small children.*
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Edit. I just rewatched the scene where Emma bails out Hook. She didn’t have her purse with her. So, I’m not sure about how this talisman + potion thing works. Maybe this particular potion doesn’t require one? But the point remains that Emma kept the dreamcatcher and put it in her purse!
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
Interesting stuff about the dreamcatcher Slurpeez and thanks for the screencaps! I wasn’t totally being flippant or anything when I asked my questions last night (I was however being slightly dorky which is par for the course for me, LOL). I was genuinely wondering what you guys thought about that stuff so thanks for answering them and I agree with most of your responses. I do think the fact that the dreamcatcher is broken is significant mainly because one, it wasn’t when they left NYC, and two, absolutely nothing is an accident on this show. Someone had to have broken that prop in just the right way for it not to be too noticeable but yet still show that it doesn’t look exactly the same as last time. I have NO clue what it all means but I do feel like it means something and maybe it is because her relationship with Neal is still broken or maybe it’s going to be the thing that clues Emma into the fact that Neal is in some type of trouble. I really don’t know but I’m curious about it and I really hope they don’t add that part of the story to the ‘things we were going to do but then dropped like a hot potato’ list. I honestly didn’t realize that she took it with her (I was hoping she did but I didn’t know for sure) so getting confirmation from the screenshots that she actually DID makes my heart feel happy. Even when she’s cursed she still cares enough about him to keep something that meant a lot to both of them. That’s pretty significant and now I’m going to be all warm & fuzzy inside the rest of the day. 🙂
#MoreBOOMLessGloomI just re-watched the scene when Emma is investigating Neal’s apartment again. I’m fairly confident that Emma stuck the dreamcatcher in her purse, which she had when she bailed Hook out of jail and drank the potion! That could mean Emma’s talisman is indeed the dreamcatcher! 🙂
That’s an excellent catch! But I’m not sure she stuck it in her bag because re-watching it again it looks like she just held it under her arm so she can grab the letters on the table. But not sure what happen to it afterwards, so she might have stuck it in the bag!
I’m going to be cautiously optimistic. I’m always amazed at what you guys can find!
Maybe she didn’t even need to take it with her in order for it to work on her. Maybe she needed to re-find it, have the dreamcatcher sort of “in her mind”
But I do think she took it with her!
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"A Neal Essay I found
I’ve never understood when people claim that Neal doesn’t have a story outside of Emma, that he’s useless, has no growth, no story of his own, no development, no relevence, isn’t important, etc
When I look at this season, I don’t even see his relationship with Emma as his biggest story arc. I would give that to his relationship with his father, which is a story that started in season 1 and has been evolving and developing ever since. We saw him as a young boy who had no one but his father, we saw how much he was betrayed with his father let him go, we saw him reunite with his father, we saw how he went from being angry and unable to trust Rumple to “you came back for me, papa” and the love between them as they reconciled as they were coming home from Neverland. He then had to watch his father give up his life, and in the one episode of 3B we’ve already seen him focused on going back to his father’s castle and not being convinced of his father’s death. None of that has to do with Emma or him being a “prop” to a love triangle.
Yes, his relationship and story with Emma is a big one for him and an important one. Emma is the woman he loves, Emma still loves him, and they have a child together. For their stories to not be intertwined with each other would be ridiculous. But just because Emma is a big part in his life doesn’t mean he doesn’t have other stories as well. After finding out about Henry, much of his attention has been focused on being a father to him, to doing what’s best for him, and saving him and getting back to him when they are apart. He was reunited with the Darlings this season. He has a past with Hook, with Tinkerbell, and the other Neverland characters. He’s quickly formed a bond with Belle, which is something that seems like it will continue to be explored this season. He met Robin Hood earlier this season, and that is a friendship that seems to be continuing. Neal has connections to and is important to many characters that aren’t Emma.
And on top of that, Neal has been important story wise since the very beginning. He is literally the reason the first curse was even created. He has driven much of Rumple’s story throughout the entire show. He obviously played a big part in Emma’s story and the creation of Henry. He also played an important piece in Hook’s story. He was with Tamara, which was important in everything that happened at the end of season 2. He had knowledge that others didn’t in Neverland that were vital in getting Henry back, and then in getting everyone back home. Neal was the one who knew how to get them off the island, would they have made it back without him?
Neal isn’t just a prop for a love interest, he’s not just a bump in the road for an opposing ship, he’s not some useless character who has done nothing. His character has been important since the first episode of the show, and he has continued to be important ever since. He has family ties, friendship ties, and romantic ties to most of the main characters and many supporting/guest characters. He has shown growth throughout the seasons, he’s made mistakes, he’s learned from his mistakes, he’s had relationships break and mend, he has jumped between worlds and time periods, and woven in and out of the other characters lives.
Whether you like him or not, Neal/Bae has been an important part of the show and nothing about his story reduces him to a useless prop.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
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