Emma + Baelfire = Swanfire

[RumplesGirl]

@LunaTiger

In one of the lightening rounds A and E were asked if we would see Pinocchio (Eion Bailey) again and the said yes. But of course that’s confusing because Eion is technically August not Pinocchio. There were rumors that a mystery person was on set for 320 “Kansas” filming at the hospital. The people watching wouldn’t spoil. But as of right now, no. No confirmation at all

[lunatiger]

Thanks RG and Elizabeth R! Though I do feel like they’re being more cautious this half of the season despite paps swarming them and keeping the major storyline under wraps. We still don’t know what’s really going on. Or what the WW has plan for any of the characters. Dunno if I should feel dread or excitement

[RumplesGirl]

honestly? I feel both. Let’s face it: only so many times we can dance around it. If MRJ isn’t seen by April 2nd, then it’s over and we know for sure

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[Josephine]

I love you guys. I really do and I love SF.  To me, they will always be my second favorite behind Rumbelle.  It’s just so poetic that they got together, the reason for the curse and the savior, and had Henry.  But I think I’m on my last stage of mourning and I’ve just accepted finally that it’s MRJ that’s gone.  Actually, letting go has made me enjoy the show a little more, if you can understand that.  I think the writers just don’t enjoy writing for Neal.  (Actually, I think it’s the same for Belle, too, but that’s another thread and can of worms).  They think of him as how he impacts other characters…Rumple’s son, Henry’s father, Emma’s ex.  But not as an independent entity, not as Neal né Baelfire.  Not his own person with his own feelings and story.  The direction they’re taking the character with seems to give further evidence of this.  Yes, it could all be a red herring, but sometimes the simplest answer  is the correct one.  Lack of any kind of background episode just fuels the flame.

So I will continue to enjoy SwanFire in fandom, but I no longer expect it on the show.  I’m not even going to lament or complain about lack of Neal anymore and be happy any time he’s on the screen and look at all the pretties.  I hate to bring my fellow shipmates down.  I’m not abandoning ship.  I promise.  Even if I just have to celebrate it in fanon instead of canon. 

Keeper of Rumplestiltskin's and Neal's spears and war paint and crystal ball.

[RumplesGirl]

*sigh*

All I ask, Adam and Eddy, is that you not destroy his character before you do this. Please don’t vilify him before it happens.

*goes to sit and in corner and wait for Slurpeez or Phee to talk some sense into her

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[Ranisha Pitts]

RG: If they are telling truth this was the worse kept secret ever. Then again I was thinking about something if you want to pull one over with the audience keep their eyes shifted on else where. Give them tons of CS spoilers because they make for great distraction and limited of one person who is the primary candidate by the fandom. cautionary hope is all I have though at this point in time…

"I will be kind but I will speak my mind."

[lunatiger]

Well it’s not over until I see it with my own eyes. Rumors/spoilers be damned. I remember my hope fading as we approached the premier 3×12, but then two days later MRJ tweeted this

[spoiler] 

And it was right around the time they were filming 3×19 I believe. I feel like when my hope fades, something swoops in and lifts me up again.

[RumplesGirl]

I know I know.

Back to pretty happy things 🙂

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[Phee]

I honestly don’t feel like they neglect Neal. Yeah, the major part of who he is is reflected in showing who he is to other people, but that’s just because that’s who he is. He IS Rumple’s son, the reason for the Curse. He IS Henry’s father and Emma’s former *cough*andfuture*cough* lover. If they’re gonna have him integrated as part of the story, interacting with other people, then those things about him HAVE to be a constant factor in how he’s portrayed, because those relationships inform who he is as a person. His relationship with his father informs who he is and why he feels so strongly about getting back to Emma and Henry, which he wants because he wants to be a better father than his father was. His history with those relationships informs who he is in present day, a man determined to do and be better, and not abandon those he loves. I don’t think you can have present day Neal as an individual character, without drawing on those relationships that make him who he is in present day. And knowing about those relationships from his past, and how wrong they went, informs what a BAMF Neal is that he’s still hanging in there and still fighting, no matter how many times life has crapped on him. His present day strength would mean nothing if we didn’t have his relationships with others motivating his choices to keep going.

I really don’t think they would create an original character totally from scratch and then not care about him. I think they care about him and his emotional journey a great deal, which is why they’re taking their time with him.

[Ozma]

Can is say im fan from all of you, bc you still have hope, because now i have none, after the filming reports came out.

Im sorry if im with no hope at all( i was full of hope last week, but this week i lost everything, i have to say some fans help this process), but one thing is MRJ being in Van but not filming, another thing is he is not being there, the door pic, im starting to believe that was a reshoot, and was a way to not make obvious that is neal. If ends not being neal, i would say bravo prodution for the kept secret, but i the same time , i will still be disapointed, guess this S3B is not good for us neal and Sf fans, because i feel that we wont see neal, more than few seconds, if he appears in all epis.

Someone asked if Neal dies we will still see the show, well my anwser is NO. Because i had the anwser on 313, with almost no Neal, i felt like i was seeing a boring show, i just wanted the show to finish to see the 314 promo, and that made me realize that with no Neal, the show means nothing to me, maybe is bc until MRJ started in the show, i was simply a casual viewer, in fact i didnt even saw all full episodes  of S1, of S2 only care about the ones that neal enters, and the same goes with S3A.

Someone told me that was bc of the hiatus, i say no, i think the principal reason was bc of the death spoiler, bc i feel that is really neal, many can say that if is neal why was a very bad secret, well since the PA spoiled and even said that the actor was not very interested on the show anymore, Adam and Eddie had to come and say something, bc they would know that everyone will be checking who was filming, so without confirming they release the spoiler so that the fans would have an idea of who was, whithout saying is neal.

About Adam and Eddie like Neal, i  think they had other ideas for Neal, that people would love him because he is Bae, but since they saw people hated him and prefer Hook, they simply decided not to develop his story anymore. Even Jen words lately, he will always be henry father, that is true, but for me that sounds like , in a way she is saying that now for emma that is only what he means for her, and i would say that is almost like, he is dead, but will remain on our memories, bc emma passed good moments with him and he is henry father. If emma is wearing the swan necklace , i see that as a Graham shoelaces part 2.Also Adam says that he talks about neal, but to say what, that he may go dark, that he will go with belle in one adventure, that is all past, waht about the present, we even know hook story, and that will be in end episodes, and about other characters, they say they have plans and are excited, but nothing about neal.

Do i feel is story driven if is Neal? No, i believe we have a Meghan 2 again, the actor asked out, i mean, if we look with casual viewers eyes, to the story, makes no sense being neal, but also the casual viewers eyes, would say to the fandom, that we are all crazy, and that  way the media, ABC and some fans treat MRJ, only a crazy person would stay on the show.

Fandoms exist because people like us, see the show for more than just one show, we see characters and identify each other with them, bc during that 45minutes, we dont worry about our lives, we live on that world, that is why im thinking in leaving ouat fandom, the show is becoming more about ships, about  fans being bad to others, so if neal is the one that dies,i prefer to think the show ended on december with an open ending for everyone to make their own, if  is not neal that dies, all his scenes will be available on youtube, tumblr or even here, so no need to see the whole show, since will be only seconds.

I guess what im saying is that i will make a hiatus of ouat, if is forever depends if the writers surprise me or not, but by the way the writing goes,  i dont think that will happen, everything is to preditable, so i thank you for all good times and we can still speak with each other on twiter of something, about non ouat related.

 

 

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