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October 26, 2013 at 11:40 pm #218957
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ParticipantI kind of think Snow and Charming would get why Neal left Emma, but it is an open question if that’s ever fully been explained to anyone on screen that the ONLY reason he left the way he did was because he HAD to due to the curse? I would enjoy a story where Snow tells Emma how she had to break Charming’s heart, so they can draw some parallels (the all-mighty-stock in trade of shippers everywhere),
In addition to that situation where Snow left Charming, and where Snowing put Emma in the wardrobe, there’s also the fact that Snowing were prepared to be separated for the sake of the Curse.
Snow White: I don’t want to do this.
Prince Charming: It has to be you.
Snow White: I’m not leaving you.
Prince Charming: It’s the only way. You’ll go in there, and you’ll be safe from the curse.
Snow White: He said it would be on her twenty-eighth birthday.
Prince Charming: What’s twenty eight years when you have eternal love? I have faith. You’ll save me as I did you.
They didn’t like it, but they knew they’d have to be separated for nigh on 3 decades, for the good of all.
Snow White: The wardrobe… It only takes one.
Prince Charming: Then our plan has failed. At least we’re together.
Snow White: No. You have to take her. Take the baby to the wardrobe.
Prince Charming: Are you out of your mind?
Snow White: No, it’s the only way. You have to save her.
Prince Charming: No, no, no. You don’t know what you’re saying.
Snow White: No, I do. We have to believe that she’ll come back for us. We have to give her her best chance.
Again, they didn’t like it, but they knew they had to do it for the good of all.
It really doesn’t surprise me that Charming, and also most likely Snow, would like Neal, because they’ve been in his exact position, and can empathise with him like WHOA.
but more importantly get into what “terrible things” could have happened if Neal stayed.
I would love an AU ep that shows what would have happened. Not only would it be fascinating, but like you say, if they want to convince a particular part of the audience that Emma would freely choose to go back to Neal, they need to illustrate better what did happen and what could have happened.
ETA: OMG that Fix You vid! See, the song is perfection for them! Thanks for posting it, slurpeez.
[adrotate group="5"]October 26, 2013 at 11:47 pm #218959RumplesGirl
Keymaster*beautiful video is beautiful*
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"October 27, 2013 at 1:30 am #218968kfchimera
ParticipantBeautiful song, so sweet all these little moments.
Phee, that is what I hope. These little moments give me hope they are still telling this story, but with all the obvious media attention on the Thing, and what that might mean, it would be nice to have some more fresh reveals of reasons to hope. I wish that we’d had a title reveal of Phoenix, but it is quite possible that some things they won’t go back to until 3.16, that is the anniversary of Manhattan.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
October 27, 2013 at 4:07 am #218979Phee
ParticipantIt seems that some took exception to Josh saying that Charming likes Neal. Josh replied to one of them. And I love him for it!
https://twitter.com/joshdallas/status/394328666806562817October 27, 2013 at 5:01 am #218980lisas
ParticipantI love Josh for this. Basically Josh said that Charming pretty much approves of Neal.
It seems that some took exception to Josh saying that Charming likes Neal. Josh replied to one of them. And I love him for it!
https://twitter.com/joshdallas/status/394328666806562817October 27, 2013 at 5:03 am #218981lisas
ParticipantIt seems that some took exception to Josh saying that Charming likes Neal. Josh replied to one of them. And I love him for it!
October 27, 2013 at 7:01 am #218982Slurpeez
ParticipantI always knew I liked Josh Dallas/Daddy Charming. 🙂
Again, I’m responding to an article Phee posted here because of CSF thoughts:
BURNING Q No. 1: Will there be more kisses? TBD. But Colin O’Donoghue says he can’t see any further movement happening before they get Henry back. “That should take precedence, especially considering Emma is his mother,” he says. “So it’s about whether anything can grow from that and within the confines of this quest. So I don’t know.”
Isn’t Emma supposed to just be working on getting back her son? Instead, she’s snogging a pirate, but I have hope we’ll see Emma regain her focus after tonight. The only others kisses I want to see happening are SF-centric.
BURNING Q No. 2: Will Neal find out about the smooch? As you know, when the big kiss happens, Emma is still under the belief that Neal is dead. But once reunited, will the truth come out? Jennifer Morrison wouldn’t say directly, but promised, “There is a point at which Emma’s truth about both Neal and Hook have to be made public.” “You can imagine a million ways in which it will happen, and you will not imagine the way it will happen,” she teases.
Very interesting! Even though J-Mo said we’d never imagine how this truth reveal happens, I’m going to guess it comes in the form of Emma getting stranded in the jungle with just her two lover boys for company.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
October 27, 2013 at 7:49 am #218989Phee
ParticipantUrgh, Josh felt the need to delete his original tweet about Charming liking Neal due to responses he got. I wanna rant, but I won’t, I’ll just say that some people have some seriously BAD FORM.
October 27, 2013 at 8:17 am #218994Slurpeez
ParticipantUrgh, Josh felt the need to delete his original tweet about Charming liking Neal due to responses he got. I wanna rant, but I won’t, I’ll just say that some people have some seriously BAD FORM.
Really? That’s so unfortunate. One of the major downsides about living in the Internet age is that fans can cyber-bully actors over trivialities they dislike. I wish that all the fans of this show, no matter their own personal preferences, had the maturity level to respect the actors, writers, and producers.
On a positive note, I really love how both MRJ and Josh Dallas admire their respective characters for the same reason. 🙂
As Josh quoted David, they are both, the good and the bad. And as Phee wrote a page back, both David and Neal made the same impossibly difficult decision to let Emma go to fulfill her destiny as the savior. If Charming can’t forgive Neal for what he did to Emma, then that means Charming can’t forgive himself for letting his daughter go. It’s remarkable that some fans of the show give Neal such a hard time, and yet give David and Snow a free pass! Now, just as Charming wants to make amends to his daughter, so does Neal! Insert another sappy SF video:
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
October 27, 2013 at 8:57 am #218998RumplesGirl
KeymasterUrgh, Josh felt the need to delete his original tweet about Charming liking Neal due to responses he got. I wanna rant, but I won’t, I’ll just say that some people have some seriously BAD FORM.
*explosion of anger.* Ranted in thread but the level of immaturity on both sides of this needs to stop. It’s a TV SHOW. JUST WATCH.
*RG has had it with all this*
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