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Emma + Baelfire = Swanfire

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  • March 31, 2014 at 8:29 pm #257770
    lunatiger
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    RumplesGirl wrote:
    astrawoid wrote:

    What did you say RG? I must have missed it. Since when are we not allowed to opinions?

    I tweeted something to Adam about how I didn’t understand the message and then someone from our site here tweeted me back telling me that not everyone gets a happy ending. I’m pretty resentful of people telling me that.

    Well, the showrunners were the ones that touted that this was a show about hope and happy endings so I think it’s a valid question. You didn’t ask why he didn’t get a happy ending, you asked what the message was or that you didn’t understand. People sometimes.

    I don’t listen to what other commenters say, especially in regards to Life’s a b*** motto. Yeah I know that but not what they forced feed us in this show until now apparently…. You can tell Neal is not their favorite character so of course they’re not as heartbroken as we are. You’re allowed your question and it’s a valid one, after everything they spoon feed us with the dialogue.

    Neal’s “This isn’t over I’ll see both of you again.”

    Rumple’s “I came back to make sure you had a happy ending.”

    Robin’s “Everyone gets second chances”

    They all seem very hypocritical statements at this point.

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    March 31, 2014 at 8:38 pm #257772
    astrawoid
    Participant
    astrawoid wrote:
    RumplesGirl wrote:
    astrawoid wrote:

    What did you say RG? I must have missed it. Since when are we not allowed to opinions?

    I tweeted something to Adam about how I didn’t understand the message and then someone from our site here tweeted me back telling me that not everyone gets a happy ending. I’m pretty resentful of people telling me that.

    Well, the showrunners were the ones that touted that this was a show about hope and happy endings so I think it’s a valid question. You didn’t ask why he didn’t get a happy ending, you asked what the message was or that you didn’t understand. People sometimes.

    I don’t listen to what other commenters say, especially in regards to Life’s a b*** motto. Yeah I know that but not what they forced feed us in this show until now apparently…. You can tell Neal is not their favorite character so of course they’re not as heartbroken as we are. You’re allowed your question and it’s a valid one, after everything they spoon feed us with the dialogue.

    Neal’s “This isn’t over I’ll see both of you again.”

    Rumple’s “I came back to make sure you had a happy ending.”

    Robin’s “Everyone gets second chances”

    They all seem very hypocritical statements at this point.

    They sure do.  And empty.  No meaning.

    "We were happy."
    "Because... it was born out of true love."

    March 31, 2014 at 8:39 pm #257773
    Keb
    Participant

    Adam responded to me, while I was in tears started up again by reading the whole MRJ tweet sequence…(those made it more personal for me because I’m also being severed not by will from my work family)

    Said he hopes I find what I’m looking for in the coming episodes in response to my asking if Neal’s death would make more sense in their context.

    I dunno what to make of it exactly, though I am flattered that he answered.

    Keeper of Belle's Gold magic, sand dollar, cloaks, purple FTL outfit, spell scroll, library key, copy of Romeo and Juliet, and cry-muffling pillow, Rumple's doll, overcoat, and strength, and The Timeline. My spreadsheet: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6r8CySCCWd9R0RUNm4xR3RhMEU/view?usp=sharing

    March 31, 2014 at 8:41 pm #257774
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    Said he hopes I find what I’m looking for in the coming episodes in response to my asking if Neal’s death would make more sense in their context.

    He means he hopes you learn to accept senseless killing.

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    March 31, 2014 at 8:45 pm #257775
    astrawoid
    Participant

    Adam responded to me, while I was in tears started up again by reading the whole MRJ tweet sequence…(those made it more personal for me because I’m also being severed not by will from my work family) Said he hopes I find what I’m looking for in the coming episodes in response to my asking if Neal’s death would make more sense in their context. I dunno what to make of it exactly, though I am flattered that he answered.

    Imo, it means that they really don’t have anything else to say about Neal’s death but hope that you continue to watch and figure it out for yourself.

    I really don’t see anything else that they can do in the show to make his death make sense. But that’s just me.  Maybe someone else can find some meaning or sense.

    Can I also say that I am really mad that some people are saying that since Belle is the one to tell Neal that the Swan keychain was born from true love that it’s not confirmation that Neal and Emma had true love.  Apparently since Belle isn’t an authority on Neal or true love, her statement doesn’t count as true love.  So not only is the way paved clear for CS, now SF isn’t true love so it doesn’t matter.  I feel so done, right now.

    "We were happy."
    "Because... it was born out of true love."

    March 31, 2014 at 8:49 pm #257776
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    @MsTVFanatic @tammythebear in many ways he achieved what he was after

    — Adam Horowitz (@AdamHorowitzLA) April 1, 2014

    @MsTVFanatic @tammythebear i don't understand the question

    — Adam Horowitz (@AdamHorowitzLA) April 1, 2014

    WUT

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    March 31, 2014 at 8:50 pm #257777
    Keb
    Participant

    Belle’s statement is TOTALLY canon for me. It was true love. There’s no reason for it not to have been. Especially now. It doesn’t get in the way of ANYTHING else they want to do for Emma, so why shouldn’t it be True Love? Besides, there was clearly destiny involved in their meeting, and Henry is as much a TL baby as Emma was.

    I don’t care what those loonies say. Swanfire is confirmed TL for me.

    Keeper of Belle's Gold magic, sand dollar, cloaks, purple FTL outfit, spell scroll, library key, copy of Romeo and Juliet, and cry-muffling pillow, Rumple's doll, overcoat, and strength, and The Timeline. My spreadsheet: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6r8CySCCWd9R0RUNm4xR3RhMEU/view?usp=sharing

    March 31, 2014 at 8:53 pm #257778
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    Belle’s statement is TOTALLY canon for me. It was true love. There’s no reason for it not to have been. Especially now. It doesn’t get in the way of ANYTHING else they want to do for Emma, so why shouldn’t it be True Love? Besides, there was clearly destiny involved in their meeting, and Henry is as much a TL baby as Emma was. I don’t care what those loonies say. Swanfire is confirmed TL for me.

    Same!

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    March 31, 2014 at 8:57 pm #257784
    lunatiger
    Participant

    Can I also say that I am really mad that some people are saying that since Belle is the one to tell Neal that the Swan keychain was born from true love that it’s not confirmation that Neal and Emma had true love. Apparently since Belle isn’t an authority on Neal or true love, her statement doesn’t count as true love. So not only is the way paved clear for CS, now SF isn’t true love so it doesn’t matter. I feel so done, right now.

    I’m not sure why they insist on trying to argue even this. Seriously? SF is already sunk, I guess they want it in the deep depths of the ocean…

    Whatever! The swanfire necklace survived the trip. Even Neal was dumbfounded that he had it with him. It’s telling that it was true love. It survived the journey because they’re love was powerful. They produced the Heart of the Truest Believer. No one is gonna convince me otherwise.

    March 31, 2014 at 8:59 pm #257786
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    Whatever! The swanfire necklace survived the trip. Even Neal was dumbfounded that he had it with him. It’s telling that it was true love. It survived the journey because they’re love was powerful. They produced the Heart of the Truest Believer. No one is gonna convince me otherwise.

    GOD THIS

    It survived because it was born of TRUE LOVE

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
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