Emma + Baelfire = Swanfire

[Slurpeez]

I like to think his overall arc isn’t about replacing Milah with another love interest (putting away my Hookriel googles for a minute here) but finding the desire to live again without the need for revenge that had been weighing him down ever since he picked up the bottle and lost his brother. I even could see his last scene taking place on the Jolly Roger sailing off for another adventure and discovering new lands while closing with his final line “To Live would be an awfully big adventure”

I agree with you. Though Hook says he only saved Charming’s life for Emma’s sake, I like to think he also did it because he remembers the pain of losing his brother and he didn’t want to see a fellow human suffer. I’m hoping that Hook learns to do the right thing whether there is anything in it for him or not. Helping Emma reunite with Neal would count as a truly selfless thing, because he’d be putting the happiness of his son figure, Neal, first ahead of his own. Hook tore Bae’s family apart by seducing Milha. While painful for Hook to now help Neal and Emma reunite, it might actually help Hook grow leaps and bounds as a character in his own right. It would be a truly heroic thing in my estimation. Maybe then, he could sail off into the sunset feeling better about himself knowing he finally helped his would-be step-son, Baelfire, find his family. Hook wasn’t able to deliver Bae home to the Darlings, but he can make up for that some now by helping Neal reunite with Emma and Henry. He can prove Bae’s claim wrong that Hook will never change by actually transforming into a man of honor who helps others, even when it comes at a personal cost. Maybe a certain mermaid who loves adventure or a feisty fairy would be an excellent consolation. 🙂

[RumplesGirl]

Maybe I’m alone in this (except for Phee) but I don’t want Hook written off the show. That feels easy. While I agree that it would be a truly selfless act to help Emma and Neal reunite, I also want those two to be the ones who reunite themselves. They both need to be acting agents in this love story. And it would be a giant character development for Hook if he did step aside, but I also can’t see him doing that. Neal died two days ago and Hook is already pursuing Emma (as of 305 quite intensely) so I can’t see him stepping aside for good. He might take pause but I think he, like most of our villains, has a nasty selfish habit that will come back. For me it’s not a matter of Hook stepping aside as if he is giving them permission but for Emma to say, “I want to be with Neal.” Any other scenario in which Hook is a Darney (A Tale of Two Cities) type figure makes it feel as though Emma and Neal wouldn’t be together if Hook hadn’t stepped aside and that’s not a real resolution.

Also, Hookriel or CaptainFairy. I need one of those to actually happen!

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[Phee]

COOKIES all around and a big, fat AMEN to so much in the last few posts!

[Slurpeez]

Maybe I’m alone in this (except for Phee) but I don’t want Hook written off the show. That feels easy. While I agree that it would be a truly selfless act to help Emma and Neal reunite, I also want those two to be the ones who reunite themselves. They both need to be acting agents in this love story. And it would be a giant character development for Hook if he did step aside, but I also can’t see him doing that. Neal died two days ago and Hook is already pursuing Emma (as of 305 quite intensely) so I can’t see him stepping aside for good. He might take pause but I think he, like most of our villains, has a nasty selfish habit that will come back. For me it’s not a matter of Hook stepping aside as if he is giving them permission but for Emma to say, “I want to be with Neal.” Any other scenario in which Hook is a Darney (A Tale of Two Cities) type figure makes it feel as though Emma and Neal wouldn’t be together if Hook hadn’t stepped aside and that’s not a real resolution.

You’re not alone in that RG. I don’t want any harm to befall Hook. I’ve merely pointed out that Hook could be similar to Sydney Carton. (FYI, Charles Darney is the guy who gets the girl, and Sydney Carton is the one who sacrifices himself). Like RG, though, I’d actually prefer it if Emma flat out chooses Neal, and then Hook finds himself another woman to make him happy.

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

[RumplesGirl]

You’re not alone in that RG. I don’t want any harm to befall Hook. I’ve merely pointed out that Hook could be similar to Sydney Carton. (FYI, Charles Darney is the guy who gets the girl, and Sydney Carton is the one who sacrifices himself). Like RG, though, I’d actually prefer it if Emma flat out chooses Neal, and then Hook finds himself another woman to make him happy.

Whoooooops. Mix up in names!

I am all for Hook getting his happy ending and being part of the family. But I think he needs a woman who can take to the open road sea and have adventures. For me the saddest character development for Hook would be him giving up the sea and that life. He is heavily molded on Jack Sparrow and as that Captain says, “the Black Pearl is freedom.” Thus, Hookriel. 🙂

6 days until 306. 🙂 Prepare the cookies.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[Phee]

I need him (this is my hookriel bias talking) to show some character growth in his own right and realize on his own merit to put down the bottle and pull a Jack Sparrow, “It would never have worked out between us, darling”. In a typical lighthearted moment just as Emma had already decided on Neal.

It would be fitting for them to give Hook an exact line of Captain Jack Sparrow’s, and this one could work perfectly.

For me the saddest character development for Hook would be him giving up the sea and that life. He is heavily molded on Jack Sparrow and as that Captain says, “the Black Pearl is freedom.” Thus, Hookriel.

This! Hook isn’t a white picket fence kinda guy, and as a Hooker, I’d be sad to see him turned into one.

[Slurpeez]

I need him (this is my hookriel bias talking) to show some character growth in his own right and realize on his own merit to put down the bottle and pull a Jack Sparrow, “It would never have worked out between us, darling”. In a typical lighthearted moment just as Emma had already decided on Neal. You can even cue her rolling her eyes.

Yes, I’ve been thinking about the similarities between the kiss Elizabeth Swan and Captain Jack Sparrow shared and the one which Emma Swan and Captain Hook shared in 3×5. Both pairs had a lot of smolder, but as you pointed out, never would have worked for several reasons. The sea is too much in Hook’s blood for him to be content long term in SB or living in a castle. He’ll probably always have wanderlust. Also, just as Elizabeth’s heart was spoken for by Will Turner, so is Emma’s heart spoken for by Neal Cassidy.

Even if Emma could’ve moved on eventually from Neal’s “death,” the fact that he really is alive and in NL fighting for her I predict will prove to be irresistible to Emma in the second part of S3. Secretly, in her innermost heart, Emma has always dreamt of Neal coming for her, which is why she spent those years in Tallahassee, despite wondering why Neal had left her. Now that she knows Neal never meant to hurt her, Emma is starting to see that event in a new light. From 3×4 “Nasty Habits,”

I’m not sad. I’m p!$$ed! Yes, Neal just died. But I lost him years ago, all that time thinking he didn’t love me only to find out that he did, and it was too late. I can’t even tell him how angry that makes me or how much it hurt when he left. Or how terrified I was when he came back, because I knew the moment I saw him that I never stopped loving him.

Emma found out that Neal never stopped loving her only to lose him again. His “death” shook her, because she realized Rumple was right, “You want a second chance with that man.” For so long, she tried to deny it, but as Emma herself says, the moment she saw him again she realized her love for him had never gone away. How does one simply move on from that, by having a fling? Because I believe that kiss we witnessed between Hook and Emma was her attempt to sooth her broken heart. Yet, I think Emma’s real hope for finding a home with the man she’s inwardly always longed for will be reignited when she discovers Neal is alive and that he loves her and wants to make up for all the pain they’ve both been through. Neal fighting for Emma I believe is the wish she’s wished a thousand times since getting out of prison and driving to Tallahassee in the car in which they met.

I predict that after her initial joy at discovering Neal is alive, Emma first must fight to get him back and then join forces with this man who loves her, the father of her child, to save Henry. And before anything more can happen romantically between them, they’re going to have to engage in some honest, frank discussion to rediscover each other through new eyes. Being in Neverland and seeing Bae’s cave with the drawings and the tally marks, plus witnessing how Pan plays mind games, probably causes Emma to empathize with Neal more than ever. Ever since coming to the island, Emma has felt like a lost girl, and she now realizes that little Bae was once a lost boy. Part of what drew them together was two orphans finding refuge together in that yellow bug, which is a bright flame in a world that was nothing but cruel to them. Emma now realizes that Neal was a victim of his father’s curse and Pan’s manipulations as surely as she was a victim. Yet, they’re also survivors, and they both have fortitude, and yet they also need one another. They are going to take care of each other. *SF feels*

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

[RumplesGirl]

Being in Neverland and seeing Bae’s cave with the drawings and the tally marks, plus witnessing how Pan plays mind games, probably causes Emma to empathize with Neal more than ever.

It’ll also help when Emma learns more about her past and the machinations of PP

Part of what drew them together was two orphans finding refuge together in that yellow bug, which is a bright flame in a world that was nothing but cruel to them. Emma now realizes that Neal was a victim of his father’s curse and Pan’s manipulations as surely as she was a victim. Yet, they’re also survivors, and they both have fortitude, and yet they also need one another. They are going to take care of each other. *SF feels*

Overcome by feels

 

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[kfchimera]

Yes Slurpeez! They definitely need to have time to understand each other and fall in love all over again.  I  want it to be a choice that they both make, knowing that there are other options out there, but that they still want each other.

I don’t mind fan interest in DarlingFire–if it gets people to see the good in Neal.  I don’t feel it would be good character growth to see it play out on screen as more than a crush on Wendy’s part, since Neal already had his chance to experience another relationship (though it was fake) with Tamara.  This is his second chance, so if the writers show him with anyone else, or falling for anyone else, then his character in my mind has shown no growth either.  He took the easy way out with Tamara, because he was convinced he’d be rejected.   So this time he HAS to show constancy about pursuing Emma.  This isn’t just about Neal either–it’s also about Emma.

She wants that second chance too, and she is angry at fate that she didn’t get it.  I want to see Emma hear the rest of the story, see that Neal is trying hard for both her and Henry, and remember why she fell in love with him the first time.

I hope that is what the red leather spoiler is about

I do want Hook to stay around, to be a genuine friend to Neal, Emma and the rest, in the way Iginio montaya and Lando were, despite having been full up on revenge/playing tricks but later regretting.  The writers might realize fans use certain buzz words and comparisons, but the way they’ve written the actual actions of Hook seem to match better comparison to these two characters to me.    I guess we will see how much truth there is in the advertising versus the writing.

“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass

[RumplesGirl]

Can this be the official SF mascot?

 

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