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It could be a file she created on herself. As in, she found everything she could about herself as a baby, etc to find more about her parents. I don’t think it was necessarily her foster system file, but a case file she created on herself.
And I don’t think August planted the article so Emma would find it… that seems silly and pointless for him to do that. It’s just something she found on her own.
[adrotate group="5"]But we do know that a big part of her believing August was him telling his story, so we know that he had to make sure she KNEW about the little boy who found her, right?
It definitely could just be newspapers. But August seems to (especially for someone who abandoned Emma) have had his hand in many parts of her life (i.e. Neal, maybe Henry, etc), so he could have more history with her that even she is not aware of.@Schmacky wrote:
I would love to have an episode where it flashed back to a very young Emma.
But yeah, what Gypsy said – she got her last name from the first family she was with until she was 3. I want to see what these people are like. Because how can you take care of a little girl for years and then just give her back because you had one of your own? I mean… did they not connect with her at all? They were there probably for her first steps, first words… how do you just give a kid away like that?
What if the adoptive parents saw the baby somehow weilding magic, maybe in her sleep or something. That’d be funny!
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@Schmacky wrote:
I would love to have an episode where it flashed back to a very young Emma.
But yeah, what Gypsy said – she got her last name from the first family she was with until she was 3. I want to see what these people are like. Because how can you take care of a little girl for years and then just give her back because you had one of your own? I mean… did they not connect with her at all? They were there probably for her first steps, first words… how do you just give a kid away like that?
What if the adoptive parents saw the baby somehow weilding magic, maybe in her sleep or something. That’d be funny!
Unfortunately, foster parents can be super unremoved from the babies they take, especially when they take babies. I know families who only took babies for “short term” placements (i.e. from birth until they could find long-term foster homes or adoptive parents) but sometimes they ended up getting the kids for a year or two while the courts fought it out… they just always have that idea that the kid could go back… Sometimes it is just like a rotary line of babies in and out of your house, so that honestly must be one of the hardest jobs… And if you’re being raised by people who have that kind of a wall up (afraid to get attached in case you get taken away), I don’t imagine you’re going to be any different (hence, Emma).
SENDING the kid back is totally weird though, especially when she was that little (I don’t imagine as a three year old, she would have had the time to be hugely problematic, because most often, the “unruly” kids are that way as a result of years in the system). So yeah, I would like to know that story.
I also know people who have several of their OWN children (like 5+) who have fought through everything necessary to adopt a kid they got as a newborn and had for years who otherwise would have been sent back into the system or to their birth parents (I mean, after you’ve lived with one family for the first five years of your life, it is hurting the kid to take them away from that family at that age) – so it seems so bizarre that kids would get “sent back” just because someone had their own kid.
Anyways, that was a bit off topic, but still in the spirit of this discussion. I’m curious to see what Eddie and Adam do with this… I feel like they are already pushing tons of buttons with the “adoption” issue (i.e. these forums and the chatroom have gone bananas with it after some episodes), so why not bring the foster care system into it as well?
I’m a bit nervous that they won’t do anything with it. We’ve seen almost every facet of Regina’s backstory but barely know anything about Emma. They’ve told us about her past but haven’t really shown us. And I’m nervous they’re OK with that.
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I’m a bit nervous that they won’t do anything with it. We’ve seen almost every facet of Regina’s backstory but barely know anything about Emma. They’ve told us about her past but haven’t really shown us. And I’m nervous they’re OK with that.
I guess maybe Emma’s back story is kind of described and kind of implied… and because we are all from the same world Emma grew up in, maybe they don’t think it is as necessary to clarify her story (the whole “woe is me, I grew up in the American foster system” story is done constantly in the media). I mean, the rest of the back stories have knights and queens and magic etc… Emma’s doesn’t have any of that. Likely the only part of her entire story that has any of that was in Tallahassee and that is only because August showed up and it was implied that there is something more to Neal than meets our initial eye.
That being said, I cannot imagine the series NEVER doing another back story for Emma (or how about for Henry?) – because that wouldn’t make sense either. Perhaps that stuff will set up something important later on.
I see it as the writers are showing the contrast between Emma, who only has ‘one personality’ to the rest of SB residents who, in a way, led two lives. While the fairy tale characters need flashbacks of the past to explain their oh-so-complex stories and remove the ambiguity from the bed stories we know, Emma’s life is presented to us as we go along and through herself and present events – August taking her for tours, Emma talking about Henry’s dad etc. No other character is actually talking about their past and that, to me, just confirms the boundary between them.
BTW, I’d love Henry’s flashback story!
What about Emma’s comments in the last episode about her past? Is she only talking about the kind of past we know from Tallahassee (when she was a thief and car thief?)… because… for her to be all “I was NOT mother material” as adamantly as she did to Snow and Charming at the end, doesn’t really line up either. Firstly, because she was totally set up when she went to prison, and she must know she didn’t really commit that horrible of a crime… and because… being a 17 year old and being a bit rebellious doesn’t make you a bad mother 11 years later.
I definitely like that they are contrasting it that way you said, Evil Queen… however, now they are talking about how much Emma has changed (and we know that she even changed between jail in “Tallahassee” and the pilot when she is doing good by tracking down criminals, but we also know, or it’s been majorly implied, that she was a “one night stand” kind of girl before SB and now she’s barely looked at another man since ‘he who shall not be named’ died, and even then, she was pushing him away).
So… big holes between “The Stranger” and “Tallahassee” flashbacks AND between “Tallahassee” and “Pilot” (once Emma was out of prison, not to mention the entire thing of how Gold got Henry).
When Regina made that comment (can’t remember the episode) about Emma moving around a lot (I think it was episode 2?) and Regina said “What was so interesting about Tallahassee?” – I am wondering if that was her implying that Emma went to Tallahassee after she got out of prison for two years to “wait for Neal”, but Neal never showed because of what August did? So that is when Emma’s heart truly broke and she became the Emma we saw in the pilot?
I think I care about the missing pieces between “Tallahassee” and “Pilot” much more than I care about the stuff from her childhood (because like I said, it’s been done, anyone who has ever watched TV can fill in what might have happened to her as a foster child in America being bounced from one home to the other).
Oh yeah, even the Tallahassee bit – we learned about it way before the flashback episode and it was, again, because of the current events at that time – Regina digging into Emma’s past.
I know there is a big gap between the time Emma was in prison until now, in fact a 10 year long gap! 😉 in that time, a lot could’ve happened. However, I cannot see Emma going to Tallahassee and just waiting there for Neal – not her style. She more than likely looked for the d*** man everywhere herself, obviously not coping with the fact that people close to her keep abandoning her in a horrible manner!
As for ‘not being a mother material’ – just living of constant stealing is bad enough, especially compared to the aura of goodness coming from her own parents.
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