Emma’s Love Interest

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@A Chipped Cup wrote:

I actually really the idea of Baelfire being Henry’s father. To me, the inspiration for the curse meeting and falling in love with the person who was destined to break the curse makes total sense. They’re both intimately conencted the curse, they’re both from Fairytale land, they’re both parentless, and they both probably ended up in foster care. They already have a ton in common. The groundwork is already there.

They could still be destined for each other without Bae being the baby daddy. But even if Bae does end up being the baby daddy, though it’s not my fave theory, I can still live with it, because I agree that the characters having an intimate connection would be believable, given what we know about each of them.

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@A Chipped Cup wrote:

I actually really the idea of Baelfire being Henry’s father. To me, the inspiration for the curse meeting and falling in love with the person who was destined to break the curse makes total sense. They’re both intimately conencted the curse, they’re both from Fairytale land, they’re both parentless, and they both probably ended up in foster care. They already have a ton in common. The groundwork is already there.

And I agree, Midnight Dreary. Most people already knew that August was Pinocchio. That’s why there were so many side theories out there. People didn’t want to believe that he was actually Pinocchio, so people started coming up with side theories. That’s when the all the Bae, Oz and Robin Hood theories started popping up.

I agree. The idea of Baelfire and Emma being conencted is not that surprising. Emma is the savior and Bae is the reason why the curse exists. The breaker of the curse and the inspiration for the curse meeting and falling in love actually makes perfect sense. It’s not just a big coincidence. They would be the only two people in the world who are from Fairytale land, outside of the curse, while still be directly connected to it. It makes sense to me.

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@Elle wrote:

They did mention we would see more of Emma’s past as a child, and that her foster would appear–don’t think they will have a big role. Just to give more about Emma’s past.

Where did they say that? Jennifer said she didn’t know but she thought it would be interesting. And the producers sort of blew off the question and said that they would rather learn about who Henry’s father is.

I don’t think that Rumpel is going to ever be hanging out with the family even if he is Henry’s grandfather. That would just be bizarre.

I think everyone knew that August was Pinocchio as well. I mean it was the most obvious thing. I know i was trying to guess other people he could be because i was hoping that they weren’t going to do the obvious thing and that all the hints were just red herrings, but they were in the end all real hints.

I completely agree that it makes perfect sense that Bae is Henry’s father because it is very standard storytelling. The daughter of the good guys and the son of the bad guy. I still hate it.

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For a moment there, the spoilers had me wondering if Baelfire would be Peter Pan (a theory that seems like even more of a cop-out to the Rumple storyline – but I digress).

Now, I’m catching up in the interviews and back to Swanfire.
@A Chipped Cup wrote:

I actually really the idea of Baelfire being Henry’s father. To me, the inspiration for the curse meeting and falling in love with the person who was destined to break the curse makes total sense. They’re both intimately conencted the curse, they’re both from Fairytale land, they’re both parentless, and they both probably ended up in foster care. They already have a ton in common. The groundwork is already there.

This, all of it! There is a nice symmetry going on if this happens. Plus, when asked if they liked updating and modernizing fairytales, they answered something along the lines that the REAL fun is layering and intertwining the different stories. How is Baelfire, at this moment in time, tied to any other character but Rumple? He’s not, which seems strange since in an interview after the final episode aired the creators stated that although Baelfire would not appear in the last episode, his absence would be felt. They also stated that Bae was the missing puzzle piece for the story. By linking him with Emma, the key players are all going to be invested in Henry’s future: the level of dysfunction may cause Henry to lose it, but he can now always runaway and become a pirate with Hook. 😈

It does seem to be a bit predictable, but I’m starting to wonder if the Henry’s dad mystery was setting up a red herring over the summer for fans to theorize about while missing the BIGGER picture. Even in interviews, they seem to try to turn it back to ‘Henry’s dad’ and Baelfire, like when asked about Emma’s foster family. Could this not be a big, drawn out mystery? Like breaking the curse, will it just happen early on – and while everyone still has to deal with the outcome, there will be bigger issues (other twists) to dominate the season? If Baelfire returns, is the dad, sure a lot of characters will be effected by this development and have to work on new relationships, but A FINAL BATTLE IS ALSO STARTING! Family drama is going to happen next season, one way or another, but will probably be placed on the back burner for war..

ANTBEE told me that they described season 2 as being about discovery and I myself was quick to latch on to discovering Henry’s dad/Baelfire’s backstory…but we also have doors to other realms and a new kind of magic next season…

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* instead of using ‘red herring’ to describe the ‘Henry’s daddy mystery’, MacGuffin would probably be the better term.

[elle]

I had heard in an interview that they would explore more of Emma’s past–I may have heard wrong.

I suppose Baelfire being the father would be a great connection. But they would really have to explain how they would meet and the circumstances of the seperation. Emma may at times be guilty of poor judgement, but if there is one thing that is certain, it is how protective she is of Henry. Everything that she has done has always been for Henry, so if she did not tell Henry’s father about her being pregnant, it was because she felt it was in Henry’s best interest.

Granted, it very well could have been a misunderstanding.

[hjbau]

There were so many interviews that i am not sure anymore. The only ones i am remembering at the moment are Jennifer saying that she isn’t sure but that she finds it interesting because it is important to Emma’s character.

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@Lil’Red wrote:

For a moment there, the spoilers had me wondering if Baelfire would be Peter Pan (a theory that seems like even more of a cop-out to the Rumple storyline – but I digress).

What originally made me wonder if Bae could be Peter was when he went through the beanhole. It was meant to send them somewhere that Rumple’s magic would be neutralised. But when Bae went through alone, he essentially became a Lost Boy, so perhaps the beanhole sent him somewhere else that would better suit his needs. But I’m not married to that theory coz I also liked your beanhole going to Beantown theory.

The more I think about it, the more I like the idea of Peter Pan being Henry’s father. I’m still hung up on Emma’s mention of pumpkin pie in the story about him, (and then they had Henry bring her a piece of pumpkin pie too, so it wasn’t just a throw away line), and how it could relate to Peter, Peter, Pumpkin Eater. And there’d be a certain delightful irony if Peter Pan, the boy who couldn’t grow up, (until he stayed in our world one day and began to age), fathered a child who became the only boy in Storybrooke who did grow up.

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I think one of the issues about the father being Peter Pan is that the producers didn’t know they were going to get permission to use Peter Pan. Though i guess they knew they could work something out if they really wanted to.

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@Phee wrote:

The more I think about it, the more I like the idea of Peter Pan being Henry’s father. I’m still hung up on Emma’s mention of pumpkin pie in the story about him, (and then they had Henry bring her a piece of pumpkin pie too, so it wasn’t just a throw away line), and how it could relate to Peter, Peter, Pumpkin Eater. And there’d be a certain delightful irony if Peter Pan, the boy who couldn’t grow up, (until he stayed in our world one day and began to age), fathered a child who became the only boy in Storybrooke who did grow up.

True, his name could be Peter, but that could also be a clue that he was a married man when he was with Emma, not necessarily that he’s Peter Pan. Or like in Lil’Red’s anthology, pumpkins could also be a reference to Jack O’Lanterns.

My problem with Bae being Peter Pan is that I would feel like it’s a retcon if he went to a world that did have magic. Now if they had covered Bae being Peter Pan last season or at least made references to the possibility that where Bae landed might have taken in some place magical once Rumple failed his part of his bargain, I wouldn’t think of it as a major retcon. However, I don’t feel that they did, so while I was not one of the sizable percentage of fans, at least on the Internet, that thought it was a major retcon in “The Stranger” that the wardrobe was actually able to hold 2 people because it happened in the same season that we first learned about the wardrobe, I do feel that Bae going to any world that had magic would be a major retcon at this point.

Not only that, I’m not sure how he would be able to realm jump, I guess because he’s Peter Pan? There’s a lot of other details like that at least for me that wouldn’t quite work out if Bae was Peter Pan. Assuming that he’s Peter Pan and also Henry’s father, I guess I really haven’t seen any clues that point to Emma being his Wendy at all. Or did he decide to leave Neverland and come here, and that’s when he met with Emma? How much time would he have spent in Neverland overall because I don’t want him to be that much older than Emma or maybe that much younger still? Why did he leave Neverland since it seems like a perfect place for a Lost Boy?

I know that they could answer all those questions, but I don’t know it just seems more straightforward and easier just to have Bae have landed in our world and end up in a similar situation like Emma was in being kept in care and putting up walls because of his abandonment issues that way if he is her true love, they’ll have a lot in common that no one else does.

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