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I agree Slurpeez. There is more to Emma than being the child of true love–she is the child of prophecy, she IS the Savior (the hero!) and it will be her role in the story until the Happy Ending.
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I agree Slurpeez. There is more to Emma than being the child of true love–she is the child of prophecy, she IS the Savior (the hero!) and it will be her role in the story until the Happy Ending.
This is why I’m finding it hard to believe that Henry could be the saviour of NL since that could take away from the importance of Emma’s role.
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In The Queen of Hearts, Emma despairs that the only reason she was ever the savior was because Mr. Gold planned it to be that way. She doubts whether she even has a greater role to play beyond having broken the curse.
Emma: He told you I was the saviour. It was his plan. Once I fulfilled that role, maybe that’s all I was ever meant to do. Everything I’ve ever done… He had it all mapped out before I was even born. I’m not powerful. I’m… I’m not… A saviour. I’m a name on a piece of paper. I’m a pawn, and that’s exactly why we are in here. And Cora’s on her way to Storybrooke.
Yet, then moments later, her internal magic causes Cora to be repelled when she tries to steal Emma’s heart and Emma declares that “love is strength.” Later, back in SB, Emma confronts Mr. Gold about the squid ink and his plan for her to be his pawn. While he acknowledges that he put certain events into play, he isn’t responsible for making her what she is, the product of true love, which makes her powerful and the savior.
Emma: We need to talk.
Mr. Gold: Yes. I believe apologies are in order.
Emma: No. No apologies necessary. I understand why you wanted to keep Cora out of here.
Mr. Gold: Just remind me never to bet against you in the future, Miss Swan.
Emma: It’s not really a bet when the game is rigged, is it?
Mr. Gold: To what exactly are you referring?
Emma: Your scroll. I saw it in your cell. You wrote my name again, and again, and again.
Mr. Gold: Just wanted to make sure it would stick.
Emma: The ink – it was there all the time. You could’ve gotten out.
Mr. Gold: I was exactly where I wanted to be. You needed to find that, so all this could occur.
Emma: You created the curse, Gold. You made me the saviour. So everything I’ve ever done… It’s exactly what you wanted me to do.
Mr. Gold: I created the curse, dearie, but I didn’t make you. I merely took advantage of what you are – the product of true love. That’s why you’re powerful. And everything you’ve done, you’ve done yourself.
Emma: So you don’t know.
Mr. Gold: Know what?
Emma: Cora… Tried to rip my heart out, but she couldn’t. She was blasted back by something inside me. By… By-
Mr. Gold: By magic. Whatever that was, I didn’t do that. You did.
That means Emma is the savior, not just because Mr. Gold planned it that way, but because Emma was born to be True Love incarnate. She is powerful in her very core, which is what makes her the savior beyond just even breaking the curse. All that she has accomplished since she initally saved Henry in 1×22 she has done by herself. Emma continues to save everyone like she saved Regina in 2×1, she saved Snow in 2×8, she saved Neal in 2×21 and she helped Regina save SB in 2×22.
From “The Cricket Game”
Regina: You can use magic… The saviour. Of course. Well, I can only assume he warned you, then.
Emma: About what?
Regina: That magic always comes with a price.
I think the price that both Regina and Emma payed was Henry being kidnapped. I’m really looking forward to Regina trying to teach Emma how to do magic.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
I think the price that both Regina and Emma payed was Henry being kidnapped. I’m really looking forward to Regina trying to teach Emma how to do magic.
I tend to disagree with a price for every type of magic. There is always a price when used for selfish reasons, but not necessarily for example, saving an entire town from complete destruction or magically whisking an object out of thin air. I think the failsafe diamond was a diversion used to distract everyone from GOAT’s main objective: kidnapping Henry, and would have happened whether or not magic was used to save Storybrooke. I suppose you could argue a price for all the types of magic we’ve seen, I just think it’s more important to find the price vs. the intent of the magic used.
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slurpeez108 wrote: I think the price that both Regina and Emma payed was Henry being kidnapped. I’m really looking forward to Regina trying to teach Emma how to do magic.
I tend to disagree with a price for every type of magic. There is always a price when used for selfish reasons, but not necessarily for example, saving an entire town from complete destruction or magically whisking an object out of thin air. I think the failsafe diamond was a diversion used to distract everyone from GOAT’s main objective: kidnapping Henry, and would have happened whether or not magic was used to save Storybrooke. I suppose you could argue a price for all the types of magic we’ve seen, I just think it’s more important to find the price vs. the intent of the magic used.
Oh runaroundmacy, you just took the words straight out of my mouth! The motive HAS to be important. I’m not sure Emma will ever have to pay “the price” because her magic is made from good emotions, which are based on doing the right thing. We’ll have to see though 🙂
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I don’t believe Emma’s true love magic comes with a price, since we’ve only seen her use it to protect those she loves so far. If anything, Emma’s good magic always saves the day after the price of dark magic has arisen due to someone else’s evil actions. Nevertheless, Emma still suffers every time dark magic is used.
We need to look at the entire context in order to more fully understand the price of magic that Regina warns Emma about in “The Cricket Game”:
Regina: You can use magic… The saviour. Of course. Well, I can only assume he warned you, then.
Emma: About what?
Regina: That magic always comes with a price.
Emma: Yeah? Well, that’s a price we’re both going to pay.
Regina: How’s that?
Emma: Henry. He believed in you. His heart’s going to break. That’s both our prices.
Regina: No. I will not let you poison Henry against me.
Emma: It’s an interesting word choice, since you already did.
It is interesting that every time magic is used for selfish intent, the Charmings end up paying dearly for Regina’s evil actions. The first and most obvious case is that Regina cast the dark curse, which caused Emma to grow up alone. Even though Emma was just an innocent victim, a helpless baby, the dark curse still carried the heavy price that Emma was alone for 28 years. She suffered by consequence of someone else’s dark magic.
The second most obvious case is that Henry paid the price with his life in 1×21 when Regina unwittingly poisoned Henry. Regina would have lost him for good if it hadn’t been for Emma saving him with TLK. Fortunately for everyone, Emma not only saved Henry but she broke the dark curse and saved everybody.
The next price that Henry paid was losing Emma and Snow through a magic portal in “Broken.” Mr. Gold punished Regina for locking up Bell by cursing her with the Wraith medallion, yet Emma being the hero that she is saved Regina and instead got sucked into another world. Fortunately, Emma’s true love magic again saved the day when she repelled Cora’s evil magic in “The Queen of Hearts” which allowed her and Snow to return to SB.
Then there was the entire fiasco in the “The Cricket Game” which was really Cora’s dark magic at work but which led Regina to spiral out of control and go full Evil Queen mode again. Regina’s selfishness about wanting sole custody of Henry led her to nearly kill all of Henry’s relatives in “The Miller’s Daughter” and again to seek to use the fail-safe in “The Evil Queen” which would have destroyed the entire town of SB had Emma not used her true love magic again to help Regina reverse the fail-safe in 2×22. Yet, the price that got paid for Regina even attempting to use the fail-safe arguably could be Henry’s disappearance.
I think PP planed to isolate Henry (since he would have been the sole survivor of the fail-safe having been born in this world). Yet, that plan was dependent upon Regina being selfish enough to 1) cast the dark curse in the first place and 2) to create the fail-safe which she then planned to use to have Henry to herself. So, despite Emma’s true love magic having saved SB, Emma still has to suffer the horrible loss of having her son kidnapped due to evil magic being used in the first place.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
Very interesting points slurpeez. It’ll be interesting to see the prices of magic for this season.
I was rewatching season 2 again, and in ASOTM Emma states that the power of the failsafe “feels like the oxygen is being sucked out of the air”. Regina says “Not the oxygen. The magic.” Maybe it’s been said before, but it has just struck me that the statement Emma made is very telling. Not only does she CONSCIOUSLY feel that magic is being sucked from the air, but also that it’s like being suffocated. The opposite of suffocation is, obviously, breathing. So, my question is, can we infer from that statement that Emma is UNCONCIOUSLY using magic all the time? Breathing is unconscious after all.
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So, my question is, can we infer from that statement that Emma is UNCONCIOUSLY using magic all the time? Breathing is unconscious after all.
Yes, I think so. She made the clock tick way before she even remotely believed in magic.
Captain Eala wrote: So, my question is, can we infer from that statement that Emma is UNCONCIOUSLY using magic all the time? Breathing is unconscious after all.
Yes, I think so. She made the clock tick way before she even remotely believed in magic.
Hm, just my opinion, but I would have thought that was the curse weakening due to her presence (I think Rumple and Regina discussed that at some point?).
What i’m thinking is that she is using it all the time, since she appears so familiar with it that she compares it to breathing. The question is: what is she doing with it?
I’m possibly over-analysing this too much in the absence of new material 😉
Keeper of Captain Swan's first kiss
True about the Curse weakening because of her presence, but because it was her presence that caused that, I still see it as something magical within her that sparked to life and made stuff happen, even though she was unaware of it. The power lines sparked the first moment she got out of the Bug and actually set foot in SB. The ground shook when she put on the Sheriff badge. Graham remembered when he kissed her. She didn’t have control over any of that, but something within her was still causing change around her. She didn’t kiss Henry intending for the kiss to wake him up and break the Curse. She didn’t touch Regina’s arm intending to make the hat work. She had no idea Cora wouldn’t be able to take her heart. But she still unconsciously made it all happen, because she just oozes magic, because it’s an inherent part of her.
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