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Rumple didn’t ooze out of the Vault, and he didn’t have Zoso haunting his thoughts. He stabbed the guy, the dark magic went into him, and BOOM, DONE. They made no attempt to explain why it’s happening differently this time, so no matter how well it’s been acted thus far, the whole premise is really rather annoying to me.
This annoys me quite a bit as well. I also want to know how the Goo got out of the vault. The last time we saw it, someone had to DIE in order for the Dark One Goo to be released.
[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"It was dark (but very early morning) when Rumple stabbed Zoso. When he gets back to Bae, it’s early morning. Given his desperation, which Zoso was preying upon, Rumple was an easy target for the kind of thinking the Dark One instills–like most Dark Ones before Emma, he’d already persuaded himself that becoming the Dark One through murder was the only way to solve his problem to begin with.
So I could believe that an hour or so to ooze out of the vault, figure out how to manipulate space to get back to Bae…could be enough.
(Of course, they’ve proven enough times they don’t care to be completely consistent or make the timeline make much sense–those beans grow pretty much overnight in Storybrooke despite taking a century in FTL–so who knows when they came up with all this.)
I do think the way in which Emma perceives the Dark One within her does mesh with Rumple’s outer behavior as we saw throughout S4 (where Rumple was definitely not succeeding as well at controlling the darker impulses as in the past when he had the system of Deals, which, after Zelena’s cruelty & Neal’s death he mostly abandons, and that I’ve always believed he relied upon to control himself), as well as earlier moments like when he toyed with the idea of killing Henry. It’s very easy for me to imagine his having a conversation in his head about whether or not to do it that parallels what we saw with Emma last night, even as he is slowly unraveling the swing’s rope.
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I think the final straw will be for someone to use the dagger against Emma. They made a point to give Hook that line about “It’s her choice.” If she has that choice stripped away from her that would be the ultimate betrayal to her trust from everyone.
And….she murders someone.
But all that good stuff is overshadowed by how random it was that this is how the Dark One curse is affecting Emma, when it’s not what we’ve seen previously. Rumple didn’t ooze out of the Vault, and he didn’t have Zoso haunting his thoughts. He stabbed the guy, the dark magic went into him, and BOOM, DONE. They made no attempt to explain why it’s happening differently this time, so no matter how well it’s been acted thus far, the whole premise is really rather annoying to me.
The thing you dislike about how the Dark One curse is explained right now can go three ways at the moment:
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<li>In Rumple’s case the previous Dark One did die indeed. That has (as far as we know) never happened before since the First Dark One.</li>
<li>Time jumps. It has been several times now that several episode intertwine eachother when you put them in chronoligical order. So there might have been time, mostly because the Dark One can’t sleep, to have the Dark One (in the shape of Zoso) teach Rumplestilskin how to be the Dark One.</li>
<li>With the histories and personalities of both Emma and Rumplestilskin (from roughly 200 years ago) set next to eachother Emma is a much stronger and resiliant person than that Rumplestilskin was, which was a coward. So Emma would put a much bigger fight against the Darkness that consumes her than Rumplestilskin would.</li>
</ol>I think when you kill the Dark One, it’s instantly absorbed into you.
Emma didn’t kill Rumple, she absorbed the swirling vortex of doom dark one magic within herself. So I’ve convinced myself that’s why it transported her to where all the Dark One Magic began….
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
I think the final straw will be for someone to use the dagger against Emma. They made a point to give Hook that line about “It’s her choice.” If she has that choice stripped away from her that would be the ultimate betrayal to her trust from everyone. And….she murders someone.
Murdering someone but not choosing to do so….yeah, that’s a better story than Emma randomly killing someone
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Why the heck didn’t Emma just kiss someone? Henry is Emma’s cannonical true love going back to season 1! Emma had the perfect opportiunity to kiss Henry as soon as her family arrived. TLK is supposed to break any curse, and unlike Rumplestiltskin, Emma wants to be rid of the dark one curse! It should’ve worked on her. The reason of course is obvious: Emma Swan must go dark and TLK is a series-end sort of thing. But still, from the perspective of the characters, plot hole. I’m surprised Snow and Charming didn’t at least suggest it.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
Why the heck didn’t Emma just kiss someone? Henry is Emma’s cannonical true love going back to season 1! Emma had the perfect opportiunity to kiss Henry as soon as her family arrived. TLK is supposed to break any curse, and unlike Rumplestiltskin, Emma wants to be rid of the dark one curse! It should’ve worked on her. The reason of course is obvious: Emma Swan must go dark and TLK is a series-end sort of thing. But still, from the perspective of the characters, plot hole. I’m surprised Snow and Charming didn’t at least suggest it.
I wonder… Can TLK be initiated by the person who is cursed? It seems to me that the whole TLK canon hinges on the cursed person being saved by an outside intervention from someone who loves them no matter what, but also with no hope of the kiss saving them or having any sort of efficacy. At least, that’s how it’s been framed in Season 1 as well. It’s sort of like the Narnia wardrobe paradox — the wardrobe won’t act as a portal unless you don’t expect it to (I might be embellishing this, I haven’t read CS Lewis since I was a kid). Point is, I don’t think TLK would work if it’s goal driven. Arguably, this is why Belle/Rumple’s TLK didn’t work: not just because Rumple wasn’t willing to give up his powers, but because Belle was doing it for the wrong reasons. I think the same rules apply in this case — you can neither force a TLK on someone, nor extract one from someone you love to solve your predicament.
I wonder… Can TLK be initiated by the person who is cursed? It seems to me that the whole TLK canon hinges on the cursed person being saved by an outside intervention from someone who loves them no matter what, but also with no hope of the kiss saving them or having any sort of efficacy.
Even so, Henry could’ve willingly kissed his mom just because he was glad to see her. Bata bing.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
Even so, Henry could’ve willingly kissed his mom just because he was glad to see her. Bata bing.
Yes, but we can’t have a logical solution to an illogical problem, now can we? Ok, in all seriousness — would a hug/relieved kiss from the kiddo work as a TLK? Would a routine peck shared by an established, long-married couple have curse breaking potential? I get a feeling that the answer is no — they wouldn’t have enough gravitas. Now, if ever OUAT did go there, I’d be seriously impressed. In fact, have a toddler run up to their parent and kiss them and break their curse — totally by accident. Just because it’s a toddler, and, you know, they love mama or dada because they’re mama or dada. Or have the boring couple share that tired peck on the cheek at the end of a long day, and boom, no more curse! Now, that sort of reinterpretation of TLK will blow my mind. But sadly I don’t think we’ll ever see anything like that on OUAT — doesn’t make for a good story 😉 Call me a pessimist.
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