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@AntBee wrote:
@Phee wrote:
I think Ethan will be someone more significant than a random real worlder lured back into town. Didn’t they say that he’ll be recurring with the possibility of sticking around next season, or am I making that up? If so, he’s gotta be someone significant.
Yes, here’s the information from the casting call.
The casting call described him as “a major recurring guest star role with an option for next season […]. A character named Barrett. He’s in his 30s, kind and smart, but also has a very dark side and has beliefs and a way of life that he will fight fiercely to defend.”
I also think that he’s not just some random person but most likely some kind of book character, or possibly just an outsider who visited the town several times before and knows that something isn’t right about it. I think it’s more likely the former though because if he’s just an outsider, I don’t know there’s much he could do besides threatening to tell everyone about Storybrooke but even then I don’t know if people in our world would actually believe him. He could be killed off easily too if they went that route, imo, unless he does turn out to be someone really important like in slurpeez’s theory, but if he’s a book character with some kind of dark powers, it’s a good way to have him become the next Big Bad or one of the next Big Bads for next season.
This season he appears innocent because he is laid up in the hospital possibly seeming like he’s on the verge of dying. I could even see him befriending people that have been connected to the hospital like Dr. Whale, Snow, Belle, and/or the Blue Fairy, and everyone believing that he’s a harmless regular guy until they reveal the twist.
Makes some sense to me. Looking at the casting call it just cries for more than a simple someone from our world.
By the way, the name mentioned in the casting call might be not the name they will use for the character, but it reminded me of Syd Barrett, one of the founding members of Pink Floyd, who wrote such nice songs as ‘The Gnome’ and ‘The Scarecrow’. Both songs are on the debut album of the band, ‘The Piper at the Gates of Dawn’, which includs also the song ‘Matilda Mother’, a song about a kid listening to the mother telling fairy tales. And on the US release you can find the song ‘See Emily play’. Not that this means anything.
Guess the ideas of some people here start to have some affect on my imagination 😉 😆
Sounds like some packed episode with all the stories mentioned in the synopsis. Rumble looking for a way out, Belle stumbling upon Hook, while in her past she goes hunting with Mulan, SnowCharming hunting for a house, and then the story of the stranger. All this in just 45 minutes (just thinking about it takes me more time).
Excited about the flashback story with Belle and Mulan, but wondering, how it will tie in with what’s going on in Storybrooke. So far the flashbacks always had a tie to what we see happening in the episode in Storybrooke, beyond giving more background to one of the characters.
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Awesome Belle and Mulan going hunting together (so cool) 😀
I think the only reason we haven’t seen Belle do any fighting is because she hasn’t had her own character centric episode yet.It’s like the creator’s wanted her to be in the show but didn’t know what to do with her until she had her first real episode so they just set her up to be kidnapped or chained to somthing.
Sticking her with Mulan we’ll probibly get to see what the creators really want her character to be like
Good always wins < That's just what Rumplestiltskin wants you to think Keeper of Belle's Theme Music, The Queen of Hearts Maze, Cora's Missing Heart,Tiny's Golden Harp
If Belle could really fight, why didn’t she with Smee? He didn’t have a weapon on him when he dragged her off to her father.
Not saying it wouldn’t be cool, but it would be random that she didn’t fight when she needed to on Storybrooke, and yet she could fight with Mulan.
@Elle wrote:
If Belle could really fight, why didn’t she with Smee? He didn’t have a weapon on him when he dragged her off to her father.
Not saying it wouldn’t be cool, but it would be random that she didn’t fight when she needed to on Storybrooke, and yet she could fight with Mulan.
Or maybe it is because her type of fighting is not the physical one. Maybe she uses her brain instead of her sword.
@myril wrote:
Makes some sense to me. Looking at the casting call it just cries for more than a simple someone from our world.
Thanks. That means a lot coming from you. 😀
Hee, I might have been incredibly wrong about my “impostor theory” feelings, but I can’t help but wonder if Emma using the dream catcher in the promo for “The Cricket Game” is somehow not only connected to Nealfire but to “Barrett”.
I just read a theory today that I don’t agree with 100% like how Cora being the cause of Neal’s nightmares or why he’s having nightmares, http://sobeyondrepair.tumblr.com/post/39507298528/okay-see-this-a-emmas-doing-mojo-b-emmas, but I do wonder if whatever was in August’s box was something that Nealfire may have saw in his nightmares which caused him to go along with August’s plan so easily. I mean I know if he’s Baelfire and his memory is intact, which it seems like will be if it’s his dad he’s running away from in the some of the spoiler photos of “Manhattan”, then he has a plethora of reasons to have nightmares. However, there could be other factors at work too like “Barrett” because I do believe that he and Neal have some kind of connection and that Neal may have sent “Barrett” to Storybrooke for him.
I don’t know if “Barrett” is someone that’s been planning things behind the scenes like getting Henry to Storybrooke or telling August how to fool Rumple, but if it’s not the Blue Fairy, then it seems like it’s most likely Barrett out of all the regular/recurring characters that are on the show now or will be in the near future. (The little girl/30 year old that is a seer possibly have enough knowledge about the future to try to get everyone in his or her proper place, but since her character wasn’t described as being a possible recurring character, I ruled her out.)
Of course, I can’t really connect “Barrett” to the dream world then except maybe he’s worried about Rumple destroying one world and bringing everyone to this world. Maybe he thought that everyone would go back when the Curse was broken, so he could avoid interfering beyond just getting the Savior there when it was time. However, she didn’t completely break the Curse like he thought she would, and now he has to handle things by actually going to Storybrooke.
By the way, the name mentioned in the casting call might be not the name they will use for the character, but it reminded me of Syd Barrett, one of the founding members of Pink Floyd, who wrote such nice songs as ‘The Gnome’ and ‘The Scarecrow’. Both songs are on the debut album of the band, ‘The Piper at the Gates of Dawn’, which includs also the song ‘Matilda Mother’, a song about a kid listening to the mother telling fairy tales. And on the US release you can find the song ‘See Emily play’. Not that this means anything.
Guess the ideas of some people here start to have some affect on my imagination 😉 😆
lol, I know what you mean. I’ll take it as a OUaT podcast forum shout out though if Barrett’s name turns out to be Syd, Floyd, Roger, or something along those lines.
@AntBee wrote:
but I do wonder if whatever was in August’s box was something that Nealfire may have saw in his nightmares which caused him to go along with August’s plan so easily. I mean I know if he’s Baelfire and his memory is intact, which it seems like will be if it’s his dad he’s running away from in the some of the spoiler photos of “Manhattan”, then he has a plethora of reasons to have nightmares. However, there could be other factors at work too like “Barrett” because I do believe that he and Neal have some kind of connection and that Neal may have sent “Barrett” to Storybrooke for him.
I don’t know for sure, but I think that maybe what August showed Neal/Bae, was a photo of his father, or a proof that he was in this world. It is just a theory, but I like the idea of Neal not going to Storybrooke because he doesn’t want to see Rumple, or talk to him.
I like the idea that Neal knows Barrett, but if so and if Barrett is in fact a fairytale character than I wonder what the story is there, also I still think Neal and August talked more than the two conversations we saw them have because of the events in The Return, 1×19, and they still may be on talking terms being that Neal as well as August are both M.I.A. at the moment and seem to continue to be that way through this episode,
AntBee: I haven’t be able to find anything confirming Neal having nightmares besides the fact that he has a dream catcher which many people do even without nightmares, and also haven’t found the pic of him running away on the photos of Manhattan. Could you post a link here so I can find them. I would be very grateful.
Final thought being if we do not know the topic of the “Flashbacks” for Manhattan my bet could be it could be Bae or Neal or even Emma centric because in episodes that have had “Flashbacks”, (which only two have not been Broken, 2×01, and Into the Deep, 2×08), the title has some connection and right now they are only plausible options other than Barrett.
Keeper of Swanfire's dream catcher, the Blue Fairy Plot Device, the contact name "Her", the lanyards, the trigger, the Netherworld room and necklace, Charming's quote on Thanksgiving, and PP's pic of Henry
@AntBee You’re welcome. 🙂
But now I have to crush your ideas again … No, not seriously. I mean, not in the sense, that they don’t make any sense anymore. But I just had this thought: Maybe the stranger is someone from our world, not a simple someone, but someone.
The riddle aside of how goods come to Storybrooke and where they get the money to pay for it: What would happen, when someone from our world comes to Storybrooke and sees by accident magic happen? How would that someone react? How would you react? Think you’ve gone crazy? Be curious? Be scared? Want to know more about it? Eventually see a chance for profit? Or see a threat that should be taken care of? Maybe you get the idea, that you could make a deal, keep the secret of Storybrooke and its people for a favour, something alike an endless stream of money (by the way, what about the Wishing-Table, the Goldass and the Cudgel in the Sack, does Rumple have them?). Maybe have the thought to even learn magic.
And how would the people of Storybrooke react? Get scared? Hope for the best, that no one would believe that someone anyway (that would be stupid, there are always people believing stories like that, maybe not many, but a few can be already a threat or nuisance; imagine tourists looking for magic, or for Snow White and Charming to get an autograph of such a famous couple, or celebrity stalkers at the doorstep of the Evil Queen – yeeek)? Hardly they would not care at all.
Options:
- Test if the someone loses any knowledge, memory of Storybrooke when crossing the line back to the outside world – but how to be sure? He could lie. And even though I think that Emma indeed has some skills to detect deception and lies, it’s not infallible (it’s a skill and not a superpower, but better discuss that in the character thread). They would have to keep him under obeservation, but as of yet they can only assume, that Emma or Henry might be able to cross the townline without any memory loss (and August, but who knows where he his). Would take more people to keep an eye on that guy to be sure. Too risky.[/*:11ypjyzt]
- Cast a memory loss spell – hm, dangerous as well, what if he has or meets some true love, and that curse gets broken?[/*:11ypjyzt]
- Kill him or let him die – uhm, something good people don’t do, right. Besides that, someone might miss him and come looking. Bad idea, will make more outsiders come to town.[/*:11ypjyzt]
- Keep him (locked up) in Storybrooke – have fun with that. Nearly the same as killing him, someone might come looking for him.[/*:11ypjyzt]
- Trust him, make a deal with him to keep the secret – well, yah, wouldn’t even work in fairy tales 😉 The task is to make sure he keeps the deal or the promise. Risky, but for good people maybe the only choice.[/*:11ypjyzt]
So, think there is something interesting in bringing some normal someone from our world to Storybrooke. And what if that someone is a bit of weirdo already, or some greedy, powerhungry someone, a psychopath, serial killer even … Well, think the serial killer would be a tad too much, but someone seeing some oportunity for big money or power for himself could be enough to create some headaches for the folks in Storybrooke. And that could be material for a longer story arc.
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I don’t know about Barrett being just an ordinary person. Whoever he is, I don’t think we’ll be finding out until next season. I’m leaning towards Peter Pan (although I’ve said a million times that I’m still hoping Nealfire turns out to be Peter).
If OUAT bases Peter’s age as he was in the books, then he would have been 7 when the curse hit. Had he been caught in the real world, when the curse hit, he’d be 34 now. That is Ethan’s actual age. He also seems to have all the same features that we think Peter Pan would have. The fair skin, blond hair and blue eyes.
Brent BARRETT is playing Hook against Cathy Rigby’s Peter Pan in the current musical revival.
Rumour has it that J.M. Barrie also got the idea for the name Neverland from Wilson BARRETT who wrote a book in 1902 called The Never Never Land.
Keeper of Pandora's Box & The Yellow Brick Road.
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