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April 24, 2013 at 1:56 am #188238RumplesGirlKeymaster
Shows how little I know about twitter lol, I didn’t know what the point of hash tags were or that you could even search that way lol 😳
Is there an easier way to view tweets at all? I find looking through Adams Q&A’s very hard, as the same single ‘conversation’ has multiple conversation boxes that come up, so I end up rereading a the same thing…if that makes sense.
Poor guy gets some real nut jobs badgering him too, wish they’d back off so he could answer some actual ‘FAN’ Questions, rather than defend his story/work. If it keeps happening he may not interact much in the future, which is sad but entirely understandable.I think Twitter is literally something you fall into, make tons of mistakes and eventually figure out what you’re doing. lol
The conversations get nuts, so I I try to just focus on one conversation and not all the ones the stem from it. If Adam has stopped tweeting the other person, then I’m not interested in what they have to say, even if they keep @ mentioning him.
[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"April 24, 2013 at 2:17 am #188245HappyEndingsSpectatorQuestion: Did you think it was odd that Gold didn’t know about Henry and said that he thought it had to be fate, do you think the BF did something to have this happened because this is the 2nd time this comment was made when Neal ran into Emma and he said it had to be fate especially since Gold was able to see the future ❓
April 24, 2013 at 3:02 am #188255KebParticipantWell, Gold was under the curse when Henry came to town. So it makes sense that it was a surprise to him–plus he didn’t know Neal had a son, and certainly didn’t know that Emma had met Neal until that scene in Manhattan. He put together the clues pretty quickly when the truth was about to come out, but that’s because he’s been around for 300 years and has seen a lot and is a pretty smart guy.
Also, he told Henry that the ability to see the future is complicated and there are missing pieces. He seems to have a blind spot when it comes to the people closest to him, since nothing that’s happened with Belle seems to be something he could have predicted.
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April 24, 2013 at 3:17 am #188256lilysmomParticipantConcerning the wand. It could be the same on because robin kept it.
April 24, 2013 at 3:46 am #188258kfchimeraParticipantAfter reading the thread, I have to applaud you all for being so thorough on combing through the dates!
I think what seems the most interesting possibility right now is what someone suggested that Rumpel had the wand twice. I like to think Rumpel doesn’t just cruelly, coldy take things but tempers his darkness by making “deals” so whatever ill fate befalls those who cross his path is partly their own doing and choice. At least, that he is like that after losing Bae.
So I’m imagining that he cut a deal with the fairy godmother (something against fairy godmother code probably!) to get her wand. She in turn recruited Robin to steal it back for her, then that is why we see him feel justified in killing her when she’s talking to Cinderella. Otherwise his killing of the Fairy God Mother (FGM) just seemed a little more openly evil than his normal mode of operating as a trickster. Then it also explains later on his comment to Regina that no one would miss the FGM whose wand he is using. None of the fairies would miss the FGM because she cut a deal with Rumpel for something a fairy wasn’t supposed to do. Maybe that “something” was a someone–as people are speculating, the tie to Marian or Tamara.
So that’s my spin on the theories people are tossing around that the FGM was tied to Marian /Tamara and it was her wand and why Rumpel had it, then lost it, then got it again.
maybe cut a deal for the wand the first time it came into his possession. Post-Bae world jump, I like to think Rumpel only makes deals rather than just cruelly, coldly taking things because he can. So we don’t see any deal with the Fairy Godmother–it seems like he just kills her out of nowhere.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
April 24, 2013 at 3:57 am #188260HappyEndingsSpectatorThe deal was with King George, David for the Fairy which I think he added to his curse. Why would he have to ask where the Fairy was if he had dealings with her before ❓
He killed the mute girl didn’t he ❓
Another note wasn’t Robin Hood in England not in FL ❓
April 24, 2013 at 4:10 am #188263surayyaParticipantI thought he simply exploded the fairy because he HATES fairies (since he blames/blamed Blue for his son’s portal jumping rather than his own actions…at that point) & that is why he says no one will miss her as well- in his mind they shouldn’t be ‘using’ fairies in the 1st place.
April 24, 2013 at 4:11 am #188264HappyEndingsSpectator@Surayya wrote:
I thought he simply exploded the fairy because he HATES fairies (since he blames/blamed Blue for his son’s portal jumping rather than his own actions…at that point) & that is why he says no one will miss her as well- in his mind they shouldn’t be ‘using’ fairies in the 1st place.
That too.
April 24, 2013 at 4:19 am #188265kfchimeraParticipant@HappyEndings wrote:
The deal was with King George, David for the Fairy which I think he added to his curse. Why would he have to ask where the Fairy was if he had dealings with her before ❓
He killed the mute girl didn’t he ❓
Another note wasn’t Robin Hood in England not in FL ❓
Well just because he had dealed with her, doesn’t mean he necessarily knew where she was later on, especially if she had magic to actively hide from him.
He did kill the mute girl, but that was before Bae jumped worlds. I’m saying after Bae left, Rumpel sort of checked his evil a little. I could be wrong–not remembering every brutal thing they’ve shown him do, but I think the worst things were pre-Bae leaving.
It’s unclear where Robin Hood in the Once-verse is located. They definitely did not show them hopping in a portal, but taking a carriage to get to the woods where Robin was. The Sheriff had a different enough accent that Rumpel shifts his accent, but other than that, we don’t know where they were. I just assumed it was a different corner of FTL.
@Surayya wrote:
I thought he simply exploded the fairy because he HATES fairies (since he blames/blamed Blue for his son’s portal jumping rather than his own actions…at that point) & that is why he says no one will miss her as well- in his mind they shouldn’t be ‘using’ fairies in the 1st place.
Yes that is the more likely explanation, and what I thought the first time I saw it. I was just offering a new layer to it, the idea that maybe there was something more personal than simple rage at all fairies. He seemed to hate fairies even before Bae jumped in the portal though, his lines to Bae suggest he wasn’t too thrilled that Bae had begged BF for help. More things the writers can pull out at a future date, perhaps to explain.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
April 24, 2013 at 4:44 am #188283HappyEndingsSpectatorKeeping Belle like a slave I think is pretty brutal and remember he killed her financee turned him into a rose.
1. I still think that theory is wrong, I do believe it is Cinderella’s Fairy God mothers wand but that is it.
2. I don’t know how the bow and arrow had magic which was kind of dumb anyway as Robin Hood was suppose to be really good with an bow and arrow without magic.
3. I still don’t know how Robin knew where the wand, given my point that the FGM was dead.
4. I think Gold wanted Cinderella (FGM) to make that deal with Cinderella and her baby setting the stage up for the curse to start and that he can use for the future.
5. As for Belle in the timeline I don’t know how long she was with Gold or Regina and apparently know one else knows either.
6. We do know that Gold had a lot of wands in his drawer but the only one he ever uses is the gold one since he had that before the curse happened the others was gather after the curse I believe.Also, remember there are a lot of pot holes in most of these eposides so this might be one of them in regards to Belle and Robin Hood.
Hopefully Adam will eventually answer the tweet that RG sent 🙂
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