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[surayya]

@RumplesGirl wrote:

If you can figure out the timeline, then you win person of the year because the last few years leading up the Curse are confusing and muddled. All I’m saying is that one of the last things Rumple did before being locked up was kill the Godmother, which lead to Cinderella’s meeting Thomas and their marriage and their child, which all happens in about the span of a year. Cinderella is still pregnant when Rumple is taken off to the prison and still pregnant when the Curse hits. He had already lost Belle by this point in time because she was locked up by Regina for at least one year.

It will be like mission impossible lol
I thought rumple killed the fairy & took the wand well before the yr the curse hit- Cinder’s hadn’t even been to the castle at that point…
So after he did his fairy kaboom, cinder made the deal, went to the ball, fall in love, got engaged, got married (invited a not preggers Snow at that point & I’m not 100% sure how far after these events were from winning their kingdom back or getting married themselves), then got preggers, then the curse hit directly before she was due… so I saw the fairy kaboom as well before he got caught 😕

Yeah I thought about the fairy godmothers wands all being the same, but in the dream, he had many different wands- so I just assumed they all had different ones 😉 It is a possibility tho.

[HappyEndings]

Will Gold had a lot of wands in his shop. But if they don’t explain why it couldn’t work on Snow’s mother but on Maid Merian that just isn’t right in my opinion.

[RumplesGirl]

The meeting of Thomas and Cindy and her pregnancy could have been years apart. Correct me if I’m wrong though!

It could, sure. The only problem is that that is not typically how true love’s fairy tales work. Once the two meet, everything normally happens within a day or two. And because we never got the traditional Cinderella fairy tale story (just the very beginning with the fairy) then yes, we don’t know the space between the ball and the wedding.

So if we take that into consideration then here’s how the timeline would have to look

1) Rumple kills Fairy Godmother and takes wand (maybe 3 or 4 years before Curse)
2) Rumple brings Belle to his castle (3 or 4 yrs BC)
3) Robin Hood shows up to take Wand and the events of Lacey (3 yrs BC)
4) Events of Skin Deep and the Outsider (2 years before curse??!?!?!?!?!) (I hate these markings on Belle’s cell with each passing moment of typing this comment)
5) Regina tells Rumple that Belle is dead (2 years before curse?)
6) Thomas and Cinderella marry (one year before Curse)
7) Cinderella is pregnant (7 ish months before curse)
8) Rumple is captured (7 ish months before curse)
9) CURSE

Ok. Discuss.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[surayya]

@HappyEndings wrote:

Will Gold had a lot of wands in his shop. But if they don’t explain why it couldn’t work on Snow’s mother but on Maid Merian that just isn’t right in my opinion.

Because that wasn’t really Blue that Little Snow spoke too- it was Cora pretending to be Blue – remember Snow said “how did you know to come, I didn’t make my wish yet” Blue had no idea she was needed as no one called/ wished for her 🙂

[surayya]

@RumplesGirl wrote:

The meeting of Thomas and Cindy and her pregnancy could have been years apart. Correct me if I’m wrong though!

It could, sure. The only problem is that that is not typically how true love’s fairy tales work. Once the two meet, everything normally happens within a day or two. And because we never got the traditional Cinderella fairy tale story (just the very beginning with the fairy) then yes, we don’t know the space between the ball and the wedding.

So if we take that into consideration then here’s how the timeline would have to look

1) Rumple kills Fairy Godmother and takes wand (maybe 3 or 4 years before Curse)
2) Rumple brings Belle to his castle (3 or 4 yrs BC)
3) Robin Hood shows up to take Wand and the events of Lacey (3 yrs BC)
4) Events of Skin Deep and the Outsider (2 years before curse??!?!?!?!?!) (I hate these markings on Belle’s cell with each passing moment of typing this comment)
5) Regina tells Rumple that Belle is dead (2 years before curse?)
6) Thomas and Cinderella marry (one year before Curse)
7) Cinderella is pregnant (7 ish months before curse)
8) Rumple is captured (7 ish months before curse)
9) CURSE

Ok. Discuss.

Oh. No. You. Didn’t! 😆 I have to go see clients now darn it 🙁 I’ll come back to this when I get back tonight, I need clarification on what these dates are based on- just Belles tally marks, because if they represent days there’d 364 for every yr she’d spent there- which would look like HEAPS on a wall & I didn’t see a cap with that many in it 😕

[HappyEndings]

Ok, check this timeline out

http://rpol.net/display.cgi?gi=51281&ti=20&date=1338345742

Rumplestiltskin murders Ella’s fairy godmother and takes her wand. The Price of Gold
Rumplestiltskin sends Ella to the ball.
Ella meets/falls in love with/marries Prince Thomas.
Rumplestiltskin visits Ella at the wedding, tells her he is going to take her first born as payment.

Snow White is pregnant

Ella realizes she is pregnant, is going to run away but Prince Thomas stops her. The Price of Gold
Rumplestiltskin is trapped by the Blue Fairy’s quill.
Prince Thomas disappears.

[HappyEndings]

@Surayya wrote:

@HappyEndings wrote:

Will Gold had a lot of wands in his shop. But if they don’t explain why it couldn’t work on Snow’s mother but on Maid Merian that just isn’t right in my opinion.

Because that wasn’t really Blue that Little Snow spoke too- it was Cora pretending to be Blue – remember Snow said “how did you know to come, I didn’t make my wish yet” Blue had no idea she was needed as no one called/ wished for her 🙂

But Snow as calling for the Blue Fairy if I remember right and Cora came instead.

[RumplesGirl]

Those dates I listed above are if we think that the Thomas/Cinderella storyline happened over a longer period of time and not within one year as one would normally assume. This is how I think the timeline actually works:

1) Rumple kills unknown fairy and takes wand. (time unknown)
2) Rumple gets Belle (2 or 3 years before curse)
3) Robin Hood tries to steal wand and all other events of Lacey (2 or 3 years before curse)
4) Events of Skin Deep and The Outsider (2 years before Curse)
5) Regina keeps Belle locked up for one year (that seems to be the consensus that I’ve found)
6) Rumple kills Cinderella’s godmother (1 year before curse)
7) Cinderella and Thomas marry
8) Cinderella is pregnant and tricks Rumple (7ish months before Curse)
9)CURSE

Here is the other option for people who don’t want to flip back and forth.

1) Rumple kills Fairy Godmother and takes wand (maybe 3 or 4 years before Curse)
2) Rumple brings Belle to his castle (3 or 4 yrs BC)
3) Robin Hood shows up to take Wand and the events of Lacey (3 yrs BC)
4) Events of Skin Deep and the Outsider (2 years before curse??!?!?!?!?!) (I hate these markings on Belle’s cell with each passing moment of typing this comment)
5) Regina tells Rumple that Belle is dead (2 years before curse?)
6) Thomas and Cinderella marry (one year before Curse)
7) Cinderella is pregnant (7 ish months before curse)
8) Rumple is captured (7 ish months before curse)
9) CURSE

So there are the two options.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[HappyEndings]

Here is Belle stuff

Belle goes with Rumplestiltskin in exchange for her village being saved from the ogres. Skin Deep

The following Winter Red, as a wolf, kills a hunting party. Red Handed
Red and Snow meet.
Red thinks Peter is the wolf, kills him after she transforms.
Red finds out that she was the wolf.

Rumplestiltskin lets Belle go to the nearby village. Skin Deep
Belle meets Queen Regina who tricks her into kissing Rumplestiltskin.
Rumplestiltskin locks Belle in the dungeon, breaks everything but the chipped cup. Sends Belle away.

Dreamy meets Nova and falls in love. Dreamy
Belle tells Dreamy that he is in love.

Dreamy and Nova want to run away together but Bossy and the Blue Fairy talk him out of it. Dreamy
Dreamy breaks up with Nova, becomes Grumpy.

Regina lies to Rumplestiltskin saying that Belle was tortured and committed suicide. Skin Deep

?Regina gets the Dark Curse from Rumplestiltskin, does not use it right away for whatever reason and trades it to Maleficent for the Sleeping Curse.
Apple/Sleeping Curse is stolen from Regina by the Blind Witch of the Gingerbread House.

Snow White lives in the forest where she robs the Evil Queen’s carriages.

[Slurpeez]

@RumplesGirl wrote:

The meeting of Thomas and Cindy and her pregnancy could have been years apart. Correct me if I’m wrong though!

It could, sure. The only problem is that that is not typically how true love’s fairy tales work. Once the two meet, everything normally happens within a day or two. And because we never got the traditional Cinderella fairy tale story (just the very beginning with the fairy) then yes, we don’t know the space between the ball and the wedding.

So if we take that into consideration then here’s how the timeline would have to look

1) Rumple kills Fairy Godmother and takes wand (maybe 3 or 4 years before Curse)
2) Rumple brings Belle to his castle (3 or 4 yrs BC)
3) Robin Hood shows up to take Wand and the events of Lacey (3 yrs BC)
4) Events of Skin Deep and the Outsider (2 years before curse??!?!?!?!?!) (I hate these markings on Belle’s cell with each passing moment of typing this comment)
5) Regina tells Rumple that Belle is dead (2 years before curse?)
6) Thomas and Cinderella marry (one year before Curse)
7) Cinderella is pregnant (7 ish months before curse)
8) Rumple is captured (7 ish months before curse)
9) CURSE

Ok. Discuss.

I think I missed something. How do we know Belle stayed with Rumple for 2-3 years? I was under the impression that from the time Rumple brought Belle to the dark castle to the time he banished her was only on the order of a few months. Not sure why I think that, but it’s probably because the storytelling in “Skin Deep” seemed so condensed.

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