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Maybe PP rewards Lost Boys by giving back their shadow? Felix does seem to be some sort of leader.
He could take Henry’s shadow and his heart. Losing your shadow is like a LB initiation, it makes Henry part of the gang, but the heart he wants for something else, probably Rumple related.
Is the shadow that took Bae really PP? I assume PP knows what Henry looks like so checking against the drawing wouldn’t be unnecessary.
[adrotate group="5"]The checking against the drawing thing wasn’t really for the Lost Boys; it was for the audience, to give you a glimpse into what was going to happen in Season Three.
I think the Shadow is PP’s but we have no confirmation as of yet. That is all for S3.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Honestly, I hope it doesn’t involve heart ripping…for one thing, I think they have done that to death at this point. For another thing, that’s really something that Cora and Regina are known for, and I’d rather Peter Pan operate a little differently. I can see Peter Pan needing Henry to hold on to his youth though- that’s a possibility. I’m dying to know what Peter wants with him and how he knew about him in the first place!
I don’t think the shadow *is* Peter himself…Adam and Eddy have stated that the are casting a real actor as Peter.
Right. That Shadow isn’t Peter, but I think it is Peter’s shadow. I think he has the power to send it out to do his bidding, but unlike the Lost Ones, the shadow can leave NL.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Honestly, I hope it doesn’t involve heart ripping…for one thing, I think they have done that to death at this point. For another thing, that’s really something that Cora and Regina are known for, and I’d rather Peter Pan operate a little differently.
I agree.
I can see Peter Pan needing Henry to hold on to his youth though- that’s a possibility. I’m dying to know what Peter wants with him and how he knew about him in the first place!
Maybe, but then again, once you’re in Neverland, you don’t age.
Honestly, I hope it doesn’t involve heart ripping…for one thing, I think they have done that to death at this point. For another thing, that’s really something that Cora and Regina are known for, and I’d rather Peter Pan operate a little differently.
On the one hand, I totally agree that we don’t really need any more heart ripping from anyone new. On the other hand, maybe all the heart ripping we’ve seen has been intended as foreshadowing for the heart ripping to end all heart rippings?
I believe the shadow who took Baelfire to NL belongs to PP. That leads me to ponder whether PP ripped off his own shadow since we know he has the ability to do so (or so Felix said).
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
Besides the episode title, does this thread contain any unmarked spoilers? I’m considering moving it into the main 3×01 discussion.
Besides the episode title, does this thread contain any unmarked spoilers? I’m considering moving it into the main 3×01 discussion.
There is some stuff about the casting call that also came out.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"I like the idea that the title might refer to Henry as well as to GOAT. We’ve seen the writers often like to show the same theme applied to different characters in an episode (e.g. the romance of David and Mary Margaret, Shawn and Ashley, and Rumple and Belle in “Skin Deep”; the theme “I don’t want to be you” voiced by both Henry and Regina in “We Are Both”, etc…)
As so many have observed, Henry has a strong record as “The Truest Believer” among the Good Guys and both Greg and Tamara have repeatedly referred to their belief in their cause. What if it comes down to a conflict between Henry and his captors in some way in which the most devoted believer wins?
I think Greg is less committed to their cause than Tamara. His primary goal was always to find his father, and secondarily to exact revenge on Regina and destroy magic. Since it appears his father is dead, he may have less motivation to sacrifice Henry, especially if he begins to see echoes of his younger self in Henry. I wouldn’t be too surprised to see him switch sides and help the CharmMillsStiltskins rescue Henry.
Of course, we haven’t yet seen Tamara’s backstory, but she seems more committed than Greg, so I would say she is “The Truest Believer” among the villains. What if the Good Guys somehow manage to capture her while they are searching for Henry? I can see Snow and Emma trying to question a defiant Tamara when an impatient Regina says “Enough of this!” and just rips out Tamara’s heart to force her to assist in the rescue, just as Cora used Aurora.
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