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[RumplesGirl]

It’s a symbolic reference to a storyline about someone being framed
Maybe that’s how Hook became a pirate, he was framed for something he didn’t do and had to run away to be a pirate.

What if the crew mutinies against “Liam” and Hook has to flee for his life because the crew has somehow set it up that YoungHook will take the blame.
Does YoungHook still make sense now that we know “Devin” isn’t YoungHook? Is it possible that Hook became a pirate at a later age, that way they can have Colin play himself?

[kfchimera]

I think it makes more sense, rather than hiring a child actor. They stretched Jen, MJR and Lana to play teens, so no reason they can’t with Colin. The only thing that throws me is the “dark hair” they wanted on Liam so specifically. Unless he is Eric, and that was why rather than making him look related to Hook.

So what if: Eric gets thrown overboard in a mutiny, and a young Hook is framed for it, and has to escape to join pirates. Hook’s story that he told Bae is based on Eric’s story. Eric is saved by Ariel.
Of course Eric should not still be alive centuries later, unless she can world hop and took him to NL.

“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass

[RumplesGirl]

OR, because my Hookriel headcanon refuses to shut up, what if the crew kills Liam and throws Hook overboard and he is rescued by a certain mermaid, but we never see her, just like in the movie Eric never really sees Ariel; he only hears her voice but it’s all very dream like. That might explain how he ended up in NL for brief amount of time. And if a group of pirates in NL (we know they are there) then took him in as their own and then he more or less “inherited” the JR because of his superior fighting skills and pirate abilities…ooooh. I like this.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[Phee]

The only thing that throws me is the “dark hair” they wanted on Liam so specifically. Unless he is Eric, and that was why rather than making him look related to Hook.

Given that he’s a Captain, I’m guessing he won’t be referred to by his first name. If he is Killian’s father, we may see Killian call him “father” and the crew call him, “Captain Jones”, but I can see them conveniently avoiding having to say his first name to confirm or deny that he’s Eric, (or Davy).

Given that Ariel won’t show up until 306, I doubt we’ll see anyone getting saved by a redheaded mermaid in 305. That rescue is a major plot point and an iconic scene from the movie, so if they’re gonna do it, I can’t imagine them glossing over it without us seeing her face and speaking. So that won’t confirm or deny if Liam or Killian are meant to be Eric either.

I have visions of 2 guys with dark hair, blue eyes, dressed in Navy uniforms so they both look Eric-ish, so they can drive us crazy and keep us guessing for a bit longer. 😛

As far as the dark hair goes, I’m still leaning towards it being an indicator that Liam is Killian’s bio-dad. But they could be casting someone who looks like him who is his father, (or a father figure), but not his bio-dad, and there’s some story they don’t wanna reveal yet about his bio-parents having died and Liam adopting him. If they look alike, they can keep that twist under wraps for now. If Liam was an orphan himself, maybe he came across an orphaned Killian when he was a baby, and didn’t want him to suffer his same fate of growing up without any family.

[RumplesGirl]

But we don’t need to see a red haired mermaid save him. Just the flip of a tail and Hook’s slight recollection that someone saved him and it was a female. It totally fits with the Disney movie! And then BOOM: mystery! Who saved Hook??

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[Phee]

I just dunno that they’d give a hint about it without actually showing it properly. It’s the sort of event that’s a vital step in the story, so you can’t really show the immediate before, then the after, and leave the actual rescue for a later ep, because there’d be no story structure for it to fit into later if the before and after has already been shown. Unless they’re saving it as a stand alone scene whenever Hook finds out about it in present day? I just think it’d feel disjointed if they showed it that way.

Also, if they even so much as hint at a guy getting rescued by a mermaid, that instantly gives away who’s filling the Eric role. If that person is Hook, then there’s no point in them building the connection and tension of CaptainSwanFire, because Ariel and Eric are epic Disney endgame. If Liam is Eric, they might be more inclined to show it, I guess.

Liam is only listed as “guest role” though, in the same blurb where another character is listed as “potentially recurring”, so it makes me think that Liam is likely a one shot? I’d think whoever’s filling the Eric role would be more than a one shot because he’ll also have to appear in an Ariel centric? Though I guess if he’s either Killian’s father, or father figure, that may well require him being in more than one ep too? *HEADDESK*

[RumplesGirl]

*sigh*

*goes to sit in corner because really liked idea and now has no ideas*

However, I don’t think Liam = Eric. Eric is going to be important, if he’s Hook or not because he’s the other half of the Ariel story and they would have said he would be a reoccurring role, not a one-off. So thus Hook’s biological/adopted father is more likely.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[Phee]

But if Hook’s father is just a one shot guest star, then he can’t become Davy Jones. And I want Papa Davy Jones just about as much as I want Hookriel. *sits in the corner with you and pouts*

[RumplesGirl]

Well why can’t he be Davy Jones for one episode? He could still be THE Davy Jones and have his story alluded to and maybe explored at a much later date.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[Slurpeez]

Well why can’t he be Davy Jones for one episode? He could still be THE Davy Jones and have his story alluded to and maybe explored at a much later date.

True, he could very well be! Killian Jones is just too close to Davy Jones to be a coincidence, and names always have meaning on this show. I have a feeling that as a fan favorite, Captain Hook’s backstory will feature in more than one episode.

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

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