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November 25, 2012 at 5:19 pm #162229Daniel J. LewisKeymaster
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YAY for Belle! 😀
I agree that the title is probably about Belle and Ethan Embry’s character.
I like the theory that the new character is the Wizard of Oz. Oz was definitely an outsider (being from Kansas and not Oz), so it would make sense. But if it is revealed that he’s Oz, then what does that make Belle? Dorothy? She does know a “cowardly lion” (Rumpel,) and Rumpel has shown a particular interest in the ruby slippers.
I would die of happiness if this happened. 😀
[adrotate group="5"]November 29, 2012 at 12:04 am #162766eternalflameParticipantI’m so relieved that Belle is finally getting her own character centric episode. I was beginning to worry that she wouldn’t get one. I’m glad to hear that she and Regina will be sharing a few scenes. I love those two and I’m curious about Belle’s feelings towards her. She’s been holding it together pretty well so far, but I have a feeling we’re going to witness a bit of an emotional meltdown from Belle in this episode. After living under the pressure of her father, then everything she experienced with Rumpel back in the Enchanted Forest, being locked up by Regina, struggle to keep Mr. Gold on the path of good, being kidnapped by her own father and NOW having to deal with Hook, girlfriend is going to be in for one hell of time. 🙁
December 3, 2012 at 11:45 pm #163579SlurpeezParticipantAfter listening to Adam Horowitz and Eddy Kitsis’ official podcast for 2×9, I have a new theory regarding the identity of Barrett, who could be “The Outsider” who comes to SB. Adam and Eddy said that we’ll find out what happens to King George after the hiatus. However, they said trying George for the murder of a mouse and frame-job of a werewolf is made complicated by the matter that if found guilty, George would have travel outside of SB to a state penitentiary (which we know would cause George to forget his fairytale identity). Since “Decker” was the district attorney of SB, he must have been an official of the state of Maine. I have a feeling that Barrett could be another state official who travels to SB to investigate a rather unusual case of a former DA on trial for murder. It would be very mysterious to see a complete outsider come to SB to overhear a trial full of supernatural occurrences.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
December 4, 2012 at 6:43 am #163616maiqu20Participant@slurpeez108 wrote:
After listening to Adam Horowitz and Eddy Kitsis’ official podcast for 2×9, I have a new theory regarding the identity of Barrett, who could be “The Outsider” who comes to SB. Adam and Eddy said that we’ll find out what happens to King George after the hiatus. However, they said trying George for the murder of a mouse and frame-job of a werewolf is made complicated by the matter that if found guilty, George would have travel outside of SB to a state penitentiary (which we know would cause George to forget his fairytale identity). Since “Decker” was the district attorney of SB, he must have been an official of the state of Maine. I have a feeling that Barrett could be another state official who travels to SB to investigate a rather unusual case of a former DA on trial for murder. It would be very mysterious to see a complete outsider come to SB to overhear a trial full of supernatural occurrences.
I love this theory
Yey for a Belle centric episode!!
December 4, 2012 at 4:34 pm #163645midnight drearyParticipant@slurpeez108 wrote:
After listening to Adam Horowitz and Eddy Kitsis’ official podcast for 2×9, I have a new theory regarding the identity of Barrett, who could be “The Outsider” who comes to SB. Adam and Eddy said that we’ll find out what happens to King George after the hiatus. However, they said trying George for the murder of a mouse and frame-job of a werewolf is made complicated by the matter that if found guilty, George would have travel outside of SB to a state penitentiary (which we know would cause George to forget his fairytale identity). Since “Decker” was the district attorney of SB, he must have been an official of the state of Maine. I have a feeling that Barrett could be another state official who travels to SB to investigate a rather unusual case of a former DA on trial for murder. It would be very mysterious to see a complete outsider come to SB to overhear a trial full of supernatural occurrences.
Cool theory! 😮
December 5, 2012 at 4:22 am #163719SlurpeezParticipant^
Thanks! As soon as I heard what to expect for King George’s arch, I put it together with Barrett’s arrival in SB, and it just seemed to fit. Of course, I could be off the mark. Speaking of Barrett, here is a new spoiler about his character:Question: Any fresh intel on who Ethan Embry is playing on Once Upon a Time? —Jenny
Ausiello: Jennifer Morrison knows about as much as the rest of us — which isn’t much. “[All we] know is he’s an outsider, he is a stranger and he is not a fairytale character,” she says, before quickly adding, “at least he’s not someone anyone recognizes from fairytale land.”The fact that Jennifer calls Ethan’s character “an outsider” confirms that the title at least partially refers to Barrett (could also refer to Belle). Perhaps Barrett is from our world but has travelled to other lands. It would explain why he’s unrecognizable but why he could be familiar with magic. I’ll stand by my theory about Barrett being an outside state official who comes to hear Decker stand trial for Gus’ murder, but I’ll add that perhaps Barrett’s arrival in town has a dual purpose. Maybe he also somehow tracks supernatural occurrences out of interest, and perhaps SB came on the grid when the curse was broken. It has a way of drawing people connected to fairytales.
The casting call for Barrett was:
“A major recurring guest star role with an option for next season is being cast. A character named Barrett. He’s in his 30s, kind and smart, but also has a very dark side and has beliefs and a way of life that he will fight fiercely to defend.”
So, Perhaps Barrett’s “dark side” is someone who is obsessed with magic. Just a thought.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
December 5, 2012 at 7:35 am #163741PheeParticipant@slurpeez108 wrote:
Speaking of Barrett, here is a new spoiler about his character:
Question: Any fresh intel on who Ethan Embry is playing on Once Upon a Time? —Jenny
Ausiello: Jennifer Morrison knows about as much as the rest of us — which isn’t much. “[All we] know is he’s an outsider, he is a stranger and he is not a fairytale character,” she says, before quickly adding, “at least he’s not someone anyone recognizes from fairytale land.”Can just imagine Jennifer’s thought process, “Oh crap, did I just say he’s not a fairytale character? Adam and Eddy are gonna have my head. Ummm…OK, I can cover for this.” 😆 I’ve been hoping he’d be someone from our world, so hopefully that’s confirmation. Though it could genuinely mean that he’s a situation like Dr Whale, where he’s from another land, it’s just that no one recognises him, but I think it’ll be more interesting if he’s a real world person.
On Dec 2, Ethan tweeted this pic of the Entering SB sign…
http://instagram.com/p/Sts1WqJm3B/
…which is a reasonable indicator that whoever he is, he can come and go from town. And the caption he put on it, “Let the games begin,” is all sorts of intriguing.I’m guessing we’ll get a brief intro of Barrett in ep 11, much like we got with Neal, and it won’t be until a few eps later that he comes to town.
December 5, 2012 at 11:44 am #163752SlurpeezParticipant@Phee wrote:
@slurpeez108 wrote:
Speaking of Barrett, here is a new spoiler about his character:
Question: Any fresh intel on who Ethan Embry is playing on Once Upon a Time? —Jenny
Ausiello: Jennifer Morrison knows about as much as the rest of us — which isn’t much. “[All we] know is he’s an outsider, he is a stranger and he is not a fairytale character,” she says, before quickly adding, “at least he’s not someone anyone recognizes from fairytale land.”Can just imagine Jennifer’s thought process, “Oh crap, did I just say he’s not a fairytale character? Adam and Eddy are gonna have my head. Ummm…OK, I can cover for this.” 😆 I’ve been hoping he’d be someone from our world, so hopefully that’s confirmation. Though it could genuinely mean that he’s a situation like Dr Whale, where he’s from another land, it’s just that no one recognises him, but I think it’ll be more interesting if he’s a real world person.
Good point. Barrett could be like Dr. Whale in the sense that he’s from a different world. What’re certain are he’s an outsider and he was unaffected by the curse since he’s able to cross the SB boundary like August did. So our options are: 1) Barrett is from our world 2) he somehow came to our world before the dark curse hit (like Emma and Pinocchio did) or 3) his world was unaffected by the curse.
On Dec 2, Ethan tweeted this pic of the Entering SB sign…
http://instagram.com/p/Sts1WqJm3B/
…which is a reasonable indicator that whoever he is, he can come and go from town. And the caption he put on it, “Let the games begin,” is all sorts of intriguing.I’m guessing we’ll get a brief intro of Barrett in ep 11, much like we got with Neal, and it won’t be until a few eps later that he comes to town.
Ethan’s tweet is really intriguing. The message “let the games begin” makes me wonder if Barrett will first pop up in “The Cricket Game” (ep. 2×10) and then maybe he’ll feature more strongly in “The Outsider” (2×11). Game could refer to King George standing trial for murder (game in the sense of cat and mouse and being caught for a wrong-doing).
Loved the Once Upon a Time midseason finale. What’s coming up when the show returns? — Joan
NATALIE: The Charming family has been reunited, but look for more bad news on the horizon. When we asked Ginnifer Goodwin and Jennifer Morrison about the joyous reunion, they both offered up ominous answers that may or may not have to do with the arrival of Hook and Cora. “It’s, of course, short-lived because yet another obstacle is going to be thrust between all of these characters,” Goodwin says, with Morrison adding, “New terrible things need to happen for us to work out.” Any guesses as to what’s in store for the Storybrooke gang? http://www.tvguide.com/News/Mega-Buzz-Bones-Vampire-Diaries-Nashville-Spoilers-1057133.aspxThere’s another spoiler that the Charmings will have to deal with yet another obstacle, but almost unbelievably, it sounds like it’s in addition to Cora and Hook’s arrival. Perhaps the Charmings must figure out how to deal with an outsider like Barrett and trying George for the murder of Gus.
Josh Dallas had something similar to say:
“With all great epic love stories, there are always obstacles thrown in front of the lovers – particularly with our show. There are some things happening that the Charming family has to deal with. Cora and Hook are showing up, and we have something else happening in Storybrooke that needs our attention.”
That ‘something else’ is definitely in addition to dealing with Hook and Cora (which could be dealing with prosecuting Decker/King George).
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
December 11, 2012 at 1:26 pm #164515rczParticipantI don’t know why, but I have a feeling that Gaston will come back, and that he will team up with Hook, in order to kill Rumple.
December 11, 2012 at 1:34 pm #164517the fairestParticipant@RCz wrote:
I don’t know why, but I have a feeling that Gaston will come back, and that he will team up with Hook, in order to kill Rumple.
I don’t know. I think the writers are done with Gaston’s character. And besides, why would Hook team up with Gaston when he has Cora? It’s like trading down. 😆
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