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@RumplesGirl wrote:
@HappyEndings wrote:
ok, I thought a canon was a pair of people that are just friends to of the same sex so I must be wrong on a cannon thing where do you people come up with this stuff cannon, shipping instead of relationship?
Canon means established. Snowing is canon, it’s a relationship that is obviously endgame and meant to be. It’s all internet speak
And it’s not only used in reference to couples, and not only for tv shows. “Canon” is any fact that’s written by or officially confirmed by the original author/s of any fictional work.
@Sam993 wrote:
I know it’s a Swanfire scene. I feel people are perceiving it as “Swanfire has won” moment.
It’s a little victory in that it’s official confirmation that Neal at least hasn’t moved on. This indicates that the SwanFire romance isn’t dead in the water, and that it’s a theme they intend to explore.
The way I could see this playing out is that Neal’s confession freaks Emma out, because she’s reeling that he still has feelings for her like she still has feelings for him, and the potential of trying again is sort of scary, which is why she’s been trying to deny it to herself up until now.
I don’t think that this scene will end with a big, happy, loved up reunion. I think that this may well be the last time Emma (or anyone else) sees him before he disappears to wherever MAPvillie ends up being. So if they argue here, and then he disappears, that’s angst for Emma over the last words she said to someone she cared about having been said in anger, and also regret if she doesn’t confess her true feelings back to him when she has the chance.
Losing Neal all over again will drive her to find someone to grab onto to steady and distract herself, someone she can express all her pent up emotions with, and that person will be Hook. Then once CaptainSwan get into the swing of things, Neal will show up again and Emma will get thrown for yet another emo loop, because there’s still so much unresolved between SwanFire, and they won’t be able to ignore it.
Then there’ll be a Shipping War to rival the Ogres Wars.
PS. My browser is a CaptainSwan shipper, because it crashed right after I’d watched the clip. 😛
[adrotate group="5"]@Phee wrote:
@Sam993 wrote:
I know it’s a Swanfire scene. I feel people are perceiving it as “Swanfire has won” moment.
It’s a little victory in that it’s official confirmation that Neal at least hasn’t moved on. This indicates that the SwanFire romance isn’t dead in the water, and that it’s a theme they intend to explore.
The way I could see this playing out is that Neal’s confession freaks Emma out, because she’s reeling that he still has feelings for her like she still has feelings for him, and the potential of trying again is sort of scary, which is why she’s been trying to deny it to herself up until now.
I don’t think that this scene will end with a big, happy, loved up reunion. I think that this may well be the last time Emma (or anyone else) sees him before he disappears to wherever MAPvillie ends up being. So if they argue here, and then he disappears, that’s angst for Emma over the last words she said to someone she cared about having been said in anger, and also regret if she doesn’t confess her true feelings back to him when she has the chance.
Losing Neal all over again will drive her to find someone to grab onto to steady and distract herself, someone she can express all her pent up emotions with, and that person will be Hook. Then once CaptainSwan get into the swing of things, Neal will show up again and Emma will get thrown for yet another emo loop, because there’s still so much unresolved between SwanFire, and they won’t be able to ignore it.
Then there’ll be a Shipping War to rival the Ogres Wars.
PS. My browser is a CaptainSwan shipper, because it crashed right after I’d watched the clip. 😛
Well said, Phee. I wrote like, 50 replies initially but deleted them all and gave up. 😆
I don’t think that this scene will end with a big, happy, loved up reunion.
agreed, I think most SwanFires know the rocky road that is ahead and that this scene will lead to that rocky road! 😥 *feeeeels*
I’m one of those Swanfire fans that completely accepts, and doesn’t mind a little Captain Swan. I completely understand it. I see at the very least flirtations on the horizon, and I’m sure I’ll enjoy it in a way. It’s not about Swanfire “winning” for me, It’s enjoying the story, regardless of my OTP. 🙂 Just how I personally watch shows I guess.
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Interesting that Bae fell into Victorian-era London. That is at most 180 years ago. I always thought Gold took the powers of The Dark One about 300 years ago. Okay interesting to get a clear(er) sense of years involved; half as many as I thought.
@malchore wrote:
Interesting Bae fell into Victorian-era London. That is at most 180 years ago. I always thought Gold took the powers of The Dark One about 300 years ago. Okay interesting to get a clear(er) sense of years involved; half as many as I thought.
Unless Baelfire fell through a time-warp and “crossed time and space” as Rumple said he did in “The Return.” If Rumple designed the curse to locate Bae in A Land Without Magic, as it seem Bae came through into our world, then Rumple must’ve expected to find Bae alive and well, despite the significant passage of time in this realm. If that’s the case, then I wonder if Rumple also knew Neal was stuck in perpetual adolescence, not aging, while in NL, on the run, so to speak.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
Losing Neal all over again will drive her to find someone to grab onto to steady and distract herself, someone she can express all her pent up emotions with, and that person will be Hook. Then once CaptainSwan get into the swing of things, Neal will show up again and Emma will get thrown for yet another emo loop, because there’s still so much unresolved between SwanFire, and they won’t be able to ignore it.
I seriously doubt that about Emma and Hook, I really find that disgusting!!! Emma will more protected then ever especially with her feelings and Henry’s. I am one of the few that don’t like Hook in addition with Emma yuck!!!
If anything she doesn’t have to have a man to make herself happy, she just found her family and needs to build on that. 🙂
@slurpeez108 wrote:
@malchore wrote:
Interesting Bae fell into Victorian-era London. That is at most 180 years ago. I always thought Gold took the powers of The Dark One about 300 years ago. Okay interesting to get a clear(er) sense of years involved; half as many as I thought.
Unless Baelfire fell through a time-warp and “crossed time and space” as Rumple said he did in “The Return.” If Rumple designed the curse to locate Bae in A Land Without Magic, as it seem Bae came through into our world, then Rumple must’ve expected to find Bae alive and well, despite the significant passage of time. If that’s the case, then I wonder if Rumple also knew Neal spent time in NL, on the run, so to speak.
Oh geez I hope they don’t go in that direction. That would veer the show too much toward a Sci-Fi direction.
I already have issues with the way the show takes liberty with amazing — I would say unbelievable — coincidence.
Well, Carlyle said once that Rumple was “about 300 years old.” They’ve cited similar numbers before but they haven’t been real precise. Bae said he’d be “a couple hundred years old” if he hadn’t gone to other lands. I’ve estimated that Rumple was in his mid-thirties when Bae was born, putting him at close to 50 when he became the Dark One. (The mid-thirties went with other evidence but it neatly put him close to the actor’s actual age.) Even so, 19th century London (even early Dickensian, which is…almost plausible) seems a little late timelinewise for Bae to pop through. But if it’s actually another world, then that problem is solved and it works okay when you consider Victor’s world (which also has similarities to particular places/times in ours, yet Victor is probably around the same age as, or slightly older than, Regina).
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The London they were depicting wasn’t Dickens era though. The citizens were definitely wearing early 20th century style fashions. Peter Pan takes place around 1900.
Yeah, I know. Which is why I think that it has to be a parallel world, not ours. But to explore that I was willing to suggest that it could be as early as that–possibly–which still doesn’t account for a number of decades in Bae’s lifespan.
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I love this clip. I agree with many others that the main thing is that Neal and Emma are having a conversation about what happened and that he is able to tell her he regrets leaving her. Couldn’t be more excited for the next two episodes and for more Rumbelle and SwanFire. That was a big giveaway – guess they are throwing caution to the winds this week – first an 8 minute clip and now this one. I’m going to need serious therapy this summer.
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