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January 19, 2013 at 10:45 am #169074antbeeParticipant
@TheGoldenKey wrote:
Maybe because he’s a professor of science? That’s what I thought when I read his last name. Professor of Science equals Professor Marvel/Wizard of OZ ? 😕
It could be, but I think it might have to do with the struggle between science and Rumple’s type of magic that happened in The Doctor and looked to be a future story line and will probably come back to bite Rumple in the butt somehow. Not that it doesn’t mean he couldn’t be Professor Marvel, but I’m thinking with the license plate with the “sylvania” and with episode 12 perhaps being Dr. Whale-centric that he’s connected to Dr. Whale’s world of Transylvania.
I can’t really think of anyone though that would fit except Dr. Jekyll/Mr. Hyde who is my guess on who “Greg Mendell” really is. I think he fits the criteria of Barrett’s casting call in that he has a really dark side that he’ll fight to defend. Dr. Jekyll would fit right in if they do continue the story line next season of science vs. magic, and have him be one of the villains for next season since they set up Cora to be one of the villains this year and perhaps would have done the same thing with Hook had they had the rights to Peter Pan at that time. Further, if they do decide to have some kind of triangle between Rumple/Belle/”Greg”, before Belle gets her memories back, then Dr. Jekyll/Mr. Hyde definitely fits Belle’s pattern of being involved in a story line with someone who has a beastly side e.g., Rumple, Red, Prince Phillip.
Not only could there be this struggle between science and magic with Dr. Jekyll/Mr. Hyde as a villain next season, but I could see how they could keep that part of his identity a secret to the residents of Storybrooke and to us by not having him transform into his other self until that time to create another shocking twist. Then, at that time, I think they would then have parallels between Rumple and Dr. Jekyll. I would assume that with Rumple finding out that Baelfire is Neal and with Neal living in Storybrooke once he finds out about Henry, and with Rumple still working on his relationship with Belle in some way, that he will actually want to redeem himself instead of this pattern this season where he sort of wants to because of Belle but hasn’t really hit rock bottom quite yet to really want to turn his life around. Then, there would be Dr. Jekyll who seems very nice, but as the season progresses, gets more and more out of control probably not unlike how Rumple was when he first became the Dark One and became darker and darker and further away from who he was as a person. I could also see Dr. Jekyll/Mr. Hyde being Rumple’s Cora in that perhaps bad things happen, and people blame Rumple for it right away because Regina either has an alibi or isn’t suspected for whatever reasons, and no one suspects “Greg” because at that time, everyone is still unaware of his other side.
There’s so many different ways the writers could go though. Will magic or science help Dr. Jekyll help him from becoming his other self forever? Like maybe he finds his true love, and that person helps him from transforming or science helps create a potion that stops his transformations forever. Or maybe the writers will just have some kind of draw.
[adrotate group="5"]January 19, 2013 at 1:01 pm #169075PheeParticipantThe Jekyll/Hyde idea is intriguing, but something that keeps me from considering it as an option is how/why would he have ended up in our world, which is clearly where Greg has been?
With the Wizard, and even with Peter Pan, both of those guys could have believably been in our world. The Wizard was originally from our world, and in the story, he leaves Oz to go home. Peter Pan could fly between our world and Neverland. Of course, they could come up with any way that anyone got from any world to ours, but with those two, there’s already a basis for the story.
If he’s the Wizard, it wouldn’t so much be a science vs magic theme they could go for with him, but they could do illusion vs magic (vs science if Frankenstein is still around to stick his nose in). The Wizard could have that “way of life he’ll fight to defend” from the casting call if he believes that actual magic is unnecessary. He reached Rumple levels of infamy without having to actually cast a single spell or curse, or kill a single person. Which is pretty impressive really.
Perhaps he’d be able to help them trick the rest of the world into not suspecting who they really are, which could play into the debate between those who want to stay, and those who want to leave.
January 19, 2013 at 1:42 pm #169076RumplesGirlKeymasterLet’s say he is Oz, and I’m really liking the evidence in light of his “Barrett’s” name being revealed….there are some other characters from the story who could potentially fit right in. We know Cora has been to many worlds, she told Hook that yet all we’ve seen is her in FTL and WL. I feel it is quite possible that she traveled to Oz and maybe struck an alliance with the Wizard, making her in some way the Wicked Witch of the West (would love to see a map on this show telling where the kingdoms are in relation to one another). The deal is Cora will help the Wizard get home but then whenever Cora makes it to our world, he must be at her beck and call. Might explain why he was traveling so late at night in Maine. Following this, is it possible that the Blue Fairy (as loathe as I am to want to say this…) might be our Glinda the Good Fairy? Except that instead of stopping Cora, her only role was to help Dorothy.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"January 19, 2013 at 2:34 pm #169083PheeParticipant@RumplesGirl wrote:
We know Cora has been to many worlds, she told Hook that yet all we’ve seen is her in FTL and WL. I feel it is quite possible that she traveled to Oz and maybe struck an alliance with the Wizard, making her in some way the Wicked Witch of the West (would love to see a map on this show telling where the kingdoms are in relation to one another). The deal is Cora will help the Wizard get home but then whenever Cora makes it to our world, he must be at her beck and call. Might explain why he was traveling so late at night in Maine.
That could be fun! Perhaps she was able to send him to the time in our world when the curse would break, so he’d be able to head there at the right time to help her.
Following this, is it possible that the Blue Fairy (as loathe as I am to want to say this…) might be our Glinda the Good Fairy? Except that instead of stopping Cora, her only role was to help Dorothy.
I’ve always had the feeling that Blue was confined to FTL. She’s the head honcho when it comes to good magic in that world, so I dunno if she’d have left her world unguarded by popping off to other worlds. Who knows what Rumple might get up to while she was away, and God forbid she got trapped in another world somehow.
That being said, I could see if maybe she was able to communicate with the good guy head honchos in other worlds, so perhaps they could tie her to Oz by having her communicating to Oz’s good witches that the magic slippers in their world had to be guarded, because The Dark One was seeking ways to get to the world they went to. So perhaps Blue could have instigated Dorothy getting the slippers.
January 19, 2013 at 2:47 pm #169084RumplesGirlKeymasterMy problem with the BF is that she seems completely useless, even in FTL.
Who knows what Rumple might get up to while she was away, and God forbid she got trapped in another world somehow.
Like manipulating Regina into casting the Dark Curse and transplanting the inhabitants of FTL to our world? Where was she the entire time this was happening? Why didn’t she interfere? So maybe she was “off world” so to speak. Maybe she’s Glinda and Tinkerbell and any other fairy we can come up with and because she was so busy doing other things she didn’t notice what Rumple was doing until it was too late.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"January 19, 2013 at 3:12 pm #169087PheeParticipantGood point! Maybe she did get careless and complacent and distracted doing stuff in other worlds.
January 19, 2013 at 3:13 pm #169088sedornaParticipantSorry for the repost. Not sure how that happened.
January 19, 2013 at 9:45 pm #169137beastwhispererParticipant@RumplesGirl wrote:
@TheGoldenKey wrote:
Ethan Embry has been given a full name. It is Greg Mendell. Here is a link with the credits. http://onceuponatime-fans.com/
So Barrett was a fake name to throw us off. Most likely used because of David Barrett, one of the show’s directors.
So that's really odd. The first thing that came to mind is the father of genetics, Gregor Mendel. But why in the world would they be naming this guy after him??
That was the first thing that came to my mind too. I love the theories about that on here. My brain just got stuck on the fact that he bred peas, so I’m having weird but funny thoughts about The Princess and the Pea as a tale of genetic engineering gone wrong. Thank goodness there are no connections between that tale and the real world, because that is the worst fairytale princess ever.
Love both the Oz and Hyde theories!
January 19, 2013 at 11:51 pm #169162sedornaParticipantOn a funny note, the name Greg means “watchful, vigilant.”
Maybe somebody should have paid more attention to the road. 😈
January 20, 2013 at 12:20 am #169165TheGoldenKeyParticipantI like Phee’s first thoughts on this. Not sure if it was here or the other thread but it was about Greg Mendell being Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Hyde.
Gypsy brought up the fact that 2KFL is a mathematical equation. As well, the very first printing of the book, Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, by Robert Louis Stevenson, was exactly 138 pages long. Greg Mendell is after all the father of genetics. It would be a fun way to introduce that character. I’ll bet he and Victor would make great drinking buddies.
Correction: I like AntBee’s first thoughts on this. 🙂
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