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November 20, 2015 at 5:38 pm #312897MatthewPaulModerator
Ever since the creative team behind Once Upon a Time announced that the show would finally be exploring an LGBT relationship in its fifth season, fans have been waiting with bated breath to find out who that would involve.
The easy guess was Mulan (Jamie Chung), who recently returned a nearly unrecognizable character after having her heart broken because Aurora (Sarah Bolger), whom she harbors feelings for, had a baby with Prince Phillip (Julian Morris). With Mulan now setting off on a new adventure with Ruby (Meghan Ory), some viewers pondered whether that was the LGBT relationship the OUAT bosses were talking about — they even already have a ‘shipper name, MulanRouge!
Alas, the powers that be are staying mum. “We’d rather than not comment on who it is with or what it is about,” executive producer Adam Horowitz tells EW. “Our goal is to make it as we see it in the real world, just as normal and as a part of every day life as it should be.”
Read more here: http://www.ew.com/article/2015/11/20/once-upon-time-lgbt-relationship
[adrotate group="5"]November 20, 2015 at 6:39 pm #312898FelieParticipantAre they avin a laugh?
"so there’s this new show….."
"there’s lesbians in it"November 20, 2015 at 8:14 pm #312905SlurpeezParticipant“We’d rather not say who it is,” yet Mulan and Ruby seem pretty obvious.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
November 20, 2015 at 10:33 pm #312914RumplesGirlKeymasterWe’d rather than not comment on who it is with or what it is about,” executive producer Adam Horowitz tells EW. “
LOL…’kay.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"November 21, 2015 at 4:27 pm #312923PriceofMagicParticipantThe easy guess was Mulan (Jamie Chung), who recently returned a nearly unrecognizable character after having her heart broken because Aurora (Sarah Bolger), whom she harbors feelings for, had a baby with Prince Phillip (Julian Morris).
This almost makes it sound like it’s Aurora’s and Phillip’s fault for Mulan’s current state because Aurora had a baby with her true love and was completely unaware how Mulan felt about her.
“Our goal is to make it as we see it in the real world, just as normal and as a part of every day life as it should be.”
Whilst I like this idea on the portrayal of the LGBT relationship, ie. not a signposted “HERE COME THE GAYS!” episode, I don’t have faith in A&E that they would do such a relationship justice. I think they may have a kiss between two people of the same gender happen in the background of a scene that is literally blink and you miss it and they’ll call it quits there.
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixNovember 21, 2015 at 5:43 pm #312926Bar FarerParticipantI never thought they would do a special episode about it, but the least they could do is having Mulan say AURORA and HER instead of SOMEONE and THEY. this whole thing is just offensive and they shouldn’t have gone there from the start if they couldn’t do it right.
"All your questions are pointless"
November 21, 2015 at 6:07 pm #312928Sci-Fi GirlParticipantSounds like they are trying way too hard. *shakes head*
SFG
Keeper of Anna’s Awkward Babbling and Kristoff’s Fur-trimmed Tunic!
November 22, 2015 at 2:09 pm #312943MyrilParticipantAlas, the powers that be are staying mum. “We’d rather than not comment on who it is with or what it is about,” executive producer Adam Horowitz tells EW. “Our goal is to make it as we see it in the real world, just as normal and as a part of every day life as it should be.”
http://www.ew.com/article/2015/11/20/once-upon-time-lgbt-relationship
(emphasis me)
Then stop making such a crapy secret of it.
Have they noticed by the way, that they are not writing a show about everyday life but a show with fairy tales, magic and fairy tale characters, with the big, big meta theme of love? Nevertheless, of course a gay relationship should appear like a part of everyday life in OUaT (unless one would like to make a point about OUaT society, but that’s not their deal anyway), very d’accord with that. But making it everyday life on OuaT won’t change, that for the show, for a take on classical and as much Disney fairy tale characters on TV, prime time Sunday broadcast network show, this is unfortunately as things are still a special thing, if they like it or not. It will stand out and is media and social media feast. Blame decades of ignorance and invisibility for that, the still existing lack of representation and diversity on screen, but handle it. Seriously, they as writers experienced in TV and film bizz really should know the difference between the reality inside their creative universe, inside the worlds of OUaT, and the audience’s and society’s reality. Otherwise go to some films school, take online courses, or read up on it.
And maybe, maybe, they just simply shouldn’t do that much “blabla we don’t spoil but still want to get you all riled up and excited” talk in the first place. Instead of announcing that they are going to do a gay relationship months before whatever, just do it. That is what they don’t get. Show, don’t talk.
My experience: Shows talking much and long about it before showing usually manage to only write token gay relationships and at worst do queer baiting, fall for the Sweep week lesbian kiss trope for example. Shows simply doing it without talking for months about it beforehand, are more likely shows getting it right. So, my expectations concerning this for OUaT are very, very low anyway by now, but my disappointment about how much the show is a miss in diversity is not decreasing. Bold failure.
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