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December 24, 2015 at 8:50 pm #314428TheWatcherParticipant
But is that “worse” than death? I mean, in Beetlejucie they had the whole “Death for the dead thing”:
And that seems unpleasant, clearly something to be avoided, possibly worse than dying and is of course, eternal. But…eternal oblivion….Nothingness forever. No memory, no feeling, no knowing…. I mean… Perhaps this is my opinion, but is that really “worse” than death. I’d say an eternity of pain, torture, and hellfire is a fate worse than death because you are aware you are experiencing it. Idk.
And really, whats the point of the people in the underworld still being able to die?????? Isn’t the whole point of the realm of death is that your dead??? You mean to tell me in the OUAT-verse, I can’t even rest in piece because I will run the risk of dying again? Seriosuly. The Underworld has Cruella…and the blind witch and Pan. You mean if I got killed by them In life I can be doubled killed by them in death too?
I ponder so many things from OUAT and this is one of the ones that is making me grind my teeth. Death. Sheesh, like just imagine how awkard that must be to die twice. Super death.
Emma: Hey, Cora. Have you seen Neal around? He died awhile after you.
Cora: Oh yeah, nice young man. He got the measles and died again. Sorry.
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And that seems unpleasant, clearly something to be avoided, possibly worse than dying and is of course, eternal. But…eternal oblivion….Nothingness forever. No memory, no feeling, no knowing…. I mean… Perhaps this is my opinion, but is that really “worse” than death. I’d say an eternity of pain, torture, and hellfire is a fate worse than death because you are aware you are experiencing it. Idk.
And really, whats the point of the people in the underworld still being able to die?????? Isn’t the whole point of the realm of death is that your dead??? You mean to tell me in the OUAT-verse, I can’t even rest in piece because I will run the risk of dying again? Seriosuly. The Underworld has Cruella…and the blind witch and Pan. You mean if I got killed by them In life I can be doubled killed by them in death too?
I ponder so many things from OUAT and this is one of the ones that is making me grind my teeth. Death. Sheesh, like just imagine how awkard that must be to die twice. Super death.Emma: Hey, Cora. Have you seen Neal around? He died awhile after you.
Cora: Oh yeah, nice young man. He got the measles and died again. Sorry.@ Watcher i laugh so hard at your post, only in ouat, i guess this actually confirms it, DEAD IS NOT DEAD anymore bc even after dead you can die again, so in order for you to be really dead u have to die a second time in the UW and this time even if u still have unfinish business with other people that wont save you. LOL.
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December 24, 2015 at 10:42 pm #314430PheeParticipantEmma: Hey, Cora. Have you seen Neal around? He died awhile after you.
Cora: Oh yeah, nice young man. He got the measles and died again. Sorry.
OMG LOL! Don’t give them ideas!!! 😛
Honestly I just shook my head and rolled my eyes through that article. Though the bit about seeing Charming’s evil twin again momentarily perked me up. He may be horrible, but he’s more fun to watch than the blah that is Charming these days.
December 25, 2015 at 2:48 am #314431WickedRegalParticipantSince they are already in the Underworld, does that mean they can’t die or kill anyone?
KITSIS: Nope.
HOROWITZ: Just to clarify.
KITSIS: They can die. They can kill.
HOROWITZ: There are new consequences that are outlined.
KITSIS: There are things that apparently are worse than death.Who remembers that Pit Thingie that Hercules had to dive into to save Meg in the movie….perhaps if you rub Hades the wrong way, he tosses you into the Bottomless Pit or something.
If they can bring Hook (Colin O’Donoghue) back, is there a chance they can bring anyone else back?
HOROWITZ: Who said they can bring back Hook?
KITSIS: He may die there. To be honest, he’s already dead.
HOROWITZ: He may die harder.
KITSIS: He may rot there.They danced around this question so hard, I’ve got no choice but to take it as a yes. We all know, someone’s going to follow them out of the Underworld! Or if they do the biblical route as they’ve been doing lately, have the Savior Emma redeem some of the people in Hell and bring them back with her.
Will we see Charming’s (Josh Dallas) twin brother in the Underworld?
KITSIS: Absolutely.
HOROWITZ: Yes.I’m actually interested in seeing this. No joke, I can’t wait till Emma meets her Uncle James, more so Snow to meet her crazy, wild brother-in-law. Imagine James flirting with Snow right in front of David!
Will Regina (Lana Parrilla) be confronted by a lot of her murder victims?
HOROWITZ: It would stand to reason that some of her victims might be in the Underworld, yes.Hmmm…this can either go really great or really wrong.
Will there be any follow-up to the Regina the Savior story line that was hinted early on this season?
KITSIS: I feel like that kind of got wrapped up in Camelot in a sense that she just did it to buy them time. She wasn’t actually the Savior. She was trying to prevent Emma from using Dark magic and letting Arthur [Liam Garrigan] know, because they didn’t want him to know what was up. I don’t think it was ever really anything than just that.I can’t….this only confirms my suspicions that they had no clue what to do with 5A and were just fishing for episodes as they went.
Will Henry (Jared Gilmore) finally get to meet Henry Sr (Tony Perez)?
HOROWITZ: Can’t say.
KITSIS: But boy would that be nice.
HOROWITZ: That would be emotional.This!!! I’m not asking for much out of 5B, I already have low expectations, but can we please make this happen!!!!!!
Will Cora having her heart back affect who she is in the Underworld?
KITSIS: Yup.So I assume Cora will be all motherly, touchy touchy, remorseful….that’s all grand and all, and I love all the Regina and Cora scene….but Cora really is the only one who can get through to Zelena….Cora is where it all started, and Cora is the one who needs to finish it. Just a sit down talk between Cora and her daughters is really needed, she’s the only one who could really nip this whole sibling rivalry/envy thing in the bud.
Will we learn the name of Robin’s (Sean Maguire) baby in the premiere?
KITSIS: Nope.
HOROWITZ: Not in the premiere.My biggest fear is that they will actually name this child Pistachio Hood Mills….that’s my biggest fear for 5B at the moment.
Does Robin know that Regina can’t have children?
KITSIS: He knows.
HOROWITZ: We haven’t seen the scene, but he knows and is aware of that.Will we finally learn more about Robin’s past?
KITSIS AND HOROWITZ: Can’t say.I just can’t….I literally…. (Flips table and hurls glass cups at the Forum Walls)
Do you think Zelena (Rebecca Mader) is capable of love?
KITSIS: I would say that is a question we would like to explore.You’ve had how many opportunities to do this now? Like seriously?
Will we see Tarzan in the near future?
HOROWITZ: Warner Bros. is releasing a movie. It looks pretty cool.There it is folks….our Season 6!!!!! #TheGorrillasAreComing Wanna bet 6×01 will be titled Into The Jungle
Any chance to see Elizabeth Mitchell back as Ingrid?
HOROWITZ: That’s a tough one. Never say never. We love Elizabeth.
KITSIS: We certainly do.
HOROWITZ: We love her very much, so let’s leave it at that for now.NO! NO! NO!!! H— NO! Leave Ingrid in Heaven with her sisters…the lady finally found peace, leave her be! DO NOT DRAG ELIZABETH MITCHELL BACK INTO THIS!
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December 25, 2015 at 8:28 am #314433Bar FarerParticipantWill we see Tarzan in the near future?
HOROWITZ: Warner Bros. is releasing a movie. It looks pretty cool.There it is folks….our Season 6!!!!! #TheGorrillasAreComing Wanna bet 6×01 will be titled Into The Jungle
It actually confirmed that they won’t do Tarzan cause Warner Bros. has the rights, not Disney.
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December 25, 2015 at 8:29 am #314434RumplesGirlKeymasterMy biggest fear is that they will actually name this child Pistachio Hood Mills….that’s my biggest fear for 5B at the moment.
Interestingly enough, that’s my biggest #hope.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"December 25, 2015 at 8:58 am #314436RainbowParticipantMerry Christmas everyone!!
NO! NO! NO!!! H— NO! Leave Ingrid in Heaven with her sisters…the lady finally found peace, leave her be! DO NOT DRAG ELIZABETH MITCHELL BACK INTO THIS!
Dont worry @WR when they say Never say never they dont mean Yes, they mean No, but we have to bait Elizabeth and some other actor who i wont mention, bc they are not known enough by the GA like Seb or Jamie, since everyone knows that they have many projects and are big names now to appear in ouat, meaning fans can be bait with these ones, so yeah, them saying never say never but is the same as if they said no especially bc they say now that they wont be in UW all arc, so no time other characters appear, but of course that can be just a decoy, i mean if they will show Oz and real SB and EF, so yeah they may be on UW until end of season, bc other places will be shown as well.
But i guess is that by the time the show returns in March, bc always we know what happens months before, we will know how the season will end an we will know who is back or not.
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December 25, 2015 at 6:57 pm #314440TheWatcherParticipantJust a sit down talk between Cora and her daughters is really needed,
And if that doesn’t work, maybe Zelena isn’t too old for a nice firm hand to the backside 😛
Who remembers that Pit Thingie that Hercules had to dive into to save Meg in the movie….perhaps if you rub Hades the wrong way, he tosses you into the Bottomless Pit or something.
But that’s where dead people go in the Disney version of Hercules. It’s not a special place of torment, we see the river/lake of the dead already in the beginning.
Ya know if the “Disney theory” is correct, that’s kind of sad. That is what awaits all our fave Disney characters at death.
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Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGICDecember 25, 2015 at 8:14 pm #314445Jiminy’s JournalParticipantOperation Codfish. That’s what I’M calling it.
December 25, 2015 at 8:16 pm #314446RumplesGirlKeymasterBut that’s where dead people go in the Disney version of Hercules. It’s not a special place of torment, we see the river/lake of the dead already in the beginning.
That’s the River Styx. That’s not Disney’s creation. Here’s a way more famous etching of Styx. Special place of torment? No, not so much. But I don’t expect A and E to stick to classic Hades. They’re going to throw in some Christian motifs (that are already aplenty in this show) and make it so that the souls in the River aren’t exactly…thrilled.
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