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April 16, 2017 at 6:29 pm #336203Bar FarerParticipant
Most of those things were retcons added later in the series. Hook never started out as “orphan abandoned by everyone” and his character was never about that. That was actually Baelfire.
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April 16, 2017 at 7:44 pm #336206MichaelBlockedMost of those things were retcons added later in the series. Hook never started out as “orphan abandoned by everyone” and his character was never about that. That was actually Baelfire.
Really? Cause just cause you and your little posse thought Hook was lying in 2×21 when he confided in Baelfire about how he was abandoned by his father doesn’t mean he wasn’t telling the truth.
What a shock though to you anyway, that he was telling the truth. So without a mother(she was gone by the time he was a child) and a father that abandoned him I would say that equated him to an orphan.
Also which one of those is a “retcon” because the one about kindred spirits has been around since 2×06, the one about him fighting for his loved ones is displayed all the time in the beginning through his revenge quest for Milah, the one about denying being sentimental was 2×11 when Belle saw that Hook kept the cloth Milah made for Bae, the one about the tattoo’s they both had was in 2×06.
So which one of these is a retcon? Cause they all happened very early on in the series.
April 16, 2017 at 7:56 pm #336207hjbauParticipantHook and Charming have the best BROMANCE because of how much they have in common with each other. We’ll have to agree to disagree, I as did many many others saw the set up in Tallahassee and personally I’m glad I saw what was correct. Sigh, Hook going to Neverland was about doing the right thing. It had nothing to do with getting into Emma’s pants and if that’s all Hook cared about he could have gotten all that much quicker then waiting for the finale to reveal he traded his home to get to Emma. Which is what he’s done once again
You actually weren’t correct about Tallahassee. The writers said multiple times that Emma was not a love interest. They changed their minds for Season 3. They said as much.
Everything you said about Neal in Tallahassee and Emma’s past with him is just completely made up. None of that happened in the actual show and is just a complete distortion of reality.
April 16, 2017 at 8:10 pm #336208TheWatcherParticipantLike I said on the previous page, everyone on this show has mommy and daddy issues and family issues in general. Like literally everyone. But Hook being abandoned as a child was never played as a huge part of his character like it was for Emma and Neal. Did he mention it to Baelfire? I vaguely recall that (did that happen on the jolly roger when Bae was a kid and he had first met Hook?), but outside of that and being shown like 4 seasons later, Hook isn’t someone the show was really associating with “orphan” or someone who had to deal with what their parents did to them. Not like the two (original) characters who were both abandoned by their parents, sent to this world centuries apart and found each other still.
Anyway, like I said in my very long previous post: Most of what u said can be applied to more than half the people on this show.
Now, lets all put this away and enjoy tonights episode.
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Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGICApril 16, 2017 at 8:49 pm #336209hjbauParticipantExactly, the two original characters. The writers wrote three original characters, their new fairytale characters. They are Emma and Neal and their son, Henry. There is the simplicity of logic, the cohesion of story, the basic connection of the beginning of this story to the end. It makes no sense to try and suggest otherwise when it is so very blatantly obvious.
April 20, 2017 at 8:38 am #336733MichaelBlockedHook and Charming have the best BROMANCE because of how much they have in common with each other. We’ll have to agree to disagree, I as did many many others saw the set up in Tallahassee and personally I’m glad I saw what was correct. Sigh, Hook going to Neverland was about doing the right thing. It had nothing to do with getting into Emma’s pants and if that’s all Hook cared about he could have gotten all that much quicker then waiting for the finale to reveal he traded his home to get to Emma. Which is what he’s done once again
You actually weren’t correct about Tallahassee. The writers said multiple times that Emma was not a love interest. They changed their minds for Season 3. They said as much. Everything you said about Neal in Tallahassee and Emma’s past with him is just completely made up. None of that happened in the actual show and is just a complete distortion of reality.
HAHAHAHA yeah sure. Writers never said that, nice try. They said they’ve been setting Hook and Emma up since the beanstalk episode. They said during the press for 2×06 that Emma and Hook are kindred spirits and they confirmed the sparks that were set up in that episode as did JMO. They said that Hook may be a good one night stand for Emma in S2A but that was the start of their story. Glad they didn’t succumb to that attraction till when they did. It made it more rewarding and that nod to The Princess Bride was all kinds of amazing, JMO really loved that moment.
“Distortion of reality” hmm Neal slept with a minor = statutory rape. He abandoned her cause of her destiny…that literally happened.
Nah what’s a distortion of reality is the way you see and view the show, because my goodness your posts about this show display your complete ignorance about literally everything.
But Hook being abandoned as a child was never played as a huge part of his character like it was for Emma and Neal. Did he mention it to Baelfire? I vaguely recall that (did that happen on the jolly roger when Bae was a kid and he had first met Hook?), but outside of that and being shown like 4 seasons later, Hook isn’t someone the show was really associating with “orphan” or someone who had to deal with what their parents did to them. Not like the two (original) characters who were both abandoned by their parents, sent to this world centuries apart and found each other still.
That’s a lie, but seeing as how you clearly never cared nor payed attention to Hook and most of you people thought he was lying you were just waiting for him to be caught in his lie and suffer the consequences.
Vaguely!? The fact that you can’t even remember when it happened is further proof of what I’m saying. And no that’s not the only time where him being abandoned by his father was brought up. It was suggested during 2×06 episode that he much like Emma was abandoned, cause he knew the look in her eyes as he’s seen it in Neverland and himself a lost boy.
This was also brought up multiple times in S3 as well as in 4×07(there was more to the scene but it was cut however Adam posted the script about the rest of the scene), before it was brought to the surface in flashback in 5×10.
But sure it came out of nowhere. You know for a site that brags about analyzing things and such some of you sure have a hard time with seeing what’s on screen or even remembering things. Maybe some of you guys should focus on the actual surface stuff before you try to dive into anything deeper.
April 20, 2017 at 8:47 am #336734Bar FarerParticipantI wish IMDB didn’t shut down their forum boards.
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April 20, 2017 at 9:23 am #336744RumplesGirlKeymaster[mod]
I’ve asked many times in multiple threads that people knock off the vitriol and attacks on posters. Since this thread has gone so far afield of its original intent and has devolved into senseless fighting then I am shutting it down
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ETA: I will reopen the thread if people promise to stop the heated combative and personal attacks on people.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"April 20, 2017 at 11:44 am #336777RumplesGirlKeymasterETA: I will reopen the thread if people promise to stop the heated combative and personal attacks on people.
It has been reopened however Daniel and I both agree that this needs to be more respective and not go into personal attacks on the posters themselves. Thank you.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"April 20, 2017 at 12:09 pm #336782thedarkonedearieParticipantHAHAHAHA yeah sure. Writers never said that, nice try. They said they’ve been setting Hook and Emma up since the beanstalk episode. They said during the press for 2×06 that Emma and Hook are kindred spirits and they confirmed the sparks that were set up in that episode as did JMO. They said that Hook may be a good one night stand for Emma in S2A but that was the start of their story. Glad they didn’t succumb to that attraction till when they did. It made it more rewarding and that nod to The Princess Bride was all kinds of amazing, JMO really loved that moment.
I do vaguely recall when the writers said Hook would be a god one night stand. I remember thinking that was hilarious bc I thought the chemistry between them was solid and could be more than just a fling. They likely said that bc Neal was still in the picture.
Vaguely!? The fact that you can’t even remember when it happened is further proof of what I’m saying. And no that’s not the only time where him being abandoned by his father was brought up. It was suggested during 2×06 episode that he much like Emma was abandoned, cause he knew the look in her eyes as he’s seen it in Neverland and himself a lost boy. This was also brought up multiple times in S3 as well as in 4×07(there was more to the scene but it was cut however Adam posted the script about the rest of the scene), before it was brought to the surface in flashback in 5×10.
Yeah like when Hook told that to Bae, that was an important scene. Hard to forget, for me at least.
What a shock though to you anyway, that he was telling the truth. So without a mother(she was gone by the time he was a child) and a father that abandoned him I would say that equated him to an orphan. Also which one of those is a “retcon” because the one about kindred spirits has been around since 2×06, the one about him fighting for his loved ones is displayed all the time in the beginning through his revenge quest for Milah, the one about denying being sentimental was 2×11 when Belle saw that Hook kept the cloth Milah made for Bae, the one about the tattoo’s they both had was in 2×06. So which one of these is a retcon? Cause they all happened very early on in the series.
And preach. Hook is an orphan. Like he is. Perhaps it doesn’t get talked about as much as Emma being one, but that doesn’t mean both Emma and Hook can’t be compared to each other as far as orphans go. To me, it’s quite interesting that Emma fell for two guys, both orphans like herself. Or perhaps the writers just simply don’t have any original ideas anymore and just keep going back to parents leaving their children in flashbacks haha
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