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June 9, 2015 at 11:54 pm #305280PheeParticipant
Sean getting promoted is no surprise. I may not personally get the huge appeal of Robin, or of OQ, but with the amount of focus and screentime he was getting, it was stupid that he wasn’t main cast already.
But really with Zelena? How are they even going to use her, apart from scenes with the baby? It’s not like they can trust her to help out with magical catastrophes and integrate her into the story that way. I hope she gets about as much screentime as Belle and Will do, and they only upped her to main cast so they have a tighter hold on Bex to prevent potential scheduling problems for the few times they’ll want to use her.
When they already have main cast in Belle, Will, even Hook recently, who they give next to nothing for them to do, it confounds me why they insist on enlarging the main cast. They have so many side characters who long time viewers would love to see get more of a role, but it seems like they keep getting further and further away from having room for them at all. I daresay if you polled the fandom and asked who they’d like to see more of, Zelena or Granny, the response would be resounding. Instead the show is falling into a pit of “Granny who?” (Replace “Granny” with any number of characters who used to actually be seen on a semi-regular basis and who used to actually matter.) This show has become too freaking bloated.
[adrotate group="5"]June 10, 2015 at 1:05 am #305284WickedRegalParticipantJune 10, 2015 at 8:20 am #305288RumplesGirlKeymasterWhen they already have main cast in Belle, Will, even Hook recently, who they give next to nothing for them to do, it confounds me why they insist on enlarging the main cast.
You can even throw Snow and Charming into that mix, at least in S4A.
The only way I can think to make Zelena’s regular status “worth it” is if Zelena actually knows something about Camelot and Merlin and she goes along on the adventure to find Emma, along with Hook, Regina, and Robin. Everyone else stays in SB.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"June 10, 2015 at 9:56 am #305290SweetsParticipantBut really with Zelena? How are they even going to use her, apart from scenes with the baby?
I can see a lot of possibilities to use Zelena outside of the baby scenario. She is an extremely powerful witch with a lot of knowledge. She is an instant information source and can wield that information to gain more and more freedom within Storybrooke. She could become a Rumple-type character.
The only way I can think to make Zelena’s regular status “worth it” is if Zelena actually knows something about Camelot and Merlin and she goes along on the adventure to find Emma, along with Hook, Regina, and Robin.
‘Xactly. I do think the baby will be nixed.
June 10, 2015 at 10:14 am #305292PheeParticipantI can see a lot of possibilities to use Zelena outside of the baby scenario. She is an extremely powerful witch with a lot of knowledge. She is an instant information source and can wield that information to gain more and more freedom within Storybrooke. She could become a Rumple-type character.
If anyone trusts Zelena to the point of allowing her to assist with anything, or they allow her any sort of freedom, I’ll roll my eyes right out of my head. There is no way that anyone in town should trust her, ever, at all.
June 10, 2015 at 10:35 am #305293RumplesGirlKeymaster‘Xactly. I do think the baby will be nixed.
I’m not sure the baby will be nixed–that would have a lot of backlash. But I do think that S5A will most likely take place over the course of a few days as opposed to months. Zelena only being, roughly, 2ish (if that?) months pregnant means that A and E can have her go off on a rescue mission because–lo and behold–Zelena knows *a thing!* that is important, while playing up the OQ+Zelena/baby angst, but NOT have to deal with the actual labor and baby situation until S5B.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"June 10, 2015 at 11:58 am #305295SweetsParticipantIf anyone trusts Zelena to the point of allowing her to assist with anything, or they allow her any sort of freedom, I’ll roll my eyes right out of my head. There is no way that anyone in town should trust her, ever, at all.
I don’t think Zelena has done anything so unseemly that no one in town would trust her if she was trying to bargain with them. No one had any reason to believe Rumple, Regina, or Hook at one point in the past, but they still did. Trust has to be earned and by making Bex a regular now they have the space to work on that trust.
June 10, 2015 at 5:51 pm #305312PriceofMagicParticipantI can see a lot of possibilities to use Zelena outside of the baby scenario. She is an extremely powerful witch with a lot of knowledge. She is an instant information source and can wield that information to gain more and more freedom within Storybrooke. She could become a Rumple-type character.
Thing is, if they use Zelena that way then they are stepping on a lot of existing regular characters toes. If Zelena is the information source, where does that leave Belle? As you say, Zelena is “powerful” with “a lot of knowledge” where does that leave Rumple when he does re-enter the story? Each existing character has a role to play within the group but if Zelena starts doubling up on those roles then you have a surplus of characters doing the same thing.
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixJune 10, 2015 at 8:29 pm #305326WickedRegalParticipantI can see a lot of possibilities to use Zelena outside of the baby scenario. She is an extremely powerful witch with a lot of knowledge. She is an instant information source and can wield that information to gain more and more freedom within Storybrooke. She could become a Rumple-type character.
Thing is, if they use Zelena that way then they are stepping on a lot of existing regular characters toes. If Zelena is the information source, where does that leave Belle? As you say, Zelena is “powerful” with “a lot of knowledge” where does that leave Rumple when he does re-enter the story? Each existing character has a role to play within the group but if Zelena starts doubling up on those roles then you have a surplus of characters doing the same thing.
Call them the Once Scooby Doo Gang or Once Avengers.
Emma: The leader of the gang whose great in both physical and magical combat. Most powerful light magic.
Regina: Second in command whose able to get the job done the right or wrong way, also the most powerful in dark and sometimes light magic.
Henry: The gang’s cheerleader who roots for everyone, but can hold his own.
Robin Hood: The thief who can help the Once Gang gain or steal secret/locked away items.
Snow White: Hope speech giving, peace keeper whose good with a bow/arrow.
David: The sword swinging valiant hero.
Belle: Brains of the group who knows all the info on books and un-magical things.
Rumple: A now powerless sage/advisor of sorts whose able to train one in magic like no other.
Hook: A wise cracking pirate whose voyaged all the seas, navigator.
And now Zelena: A powerful witch with high knowledge of magic of nearly all sorts.
Everyone can have a part to play without stealing anyone else’s spot….if anything, Zelena will be the “Belle” of magic, knowing all things magical and enchanting. Rumple’s place would be like a sage or advisor now.
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
June 10, 2015 at 8:55 pm #305330SweetsParticipantCall them the Once Scooby Doo Gang or Once Avengers. Emma: The leader of the gang whose great in both physical and magical combat. Most powerful light magic. Regina: Second in command whose able to get the job done the right or wrong way, also the most powerful in dark and sometimes light magic. Henry: The gang’s cheerleader who roots for everyone, but can hold his own. Robin Hood: The thief who can help the Once Gang gain or steal secret/locked away items. Snow White: Hope speech giving, peace keeper whose good with a bow/arrow. David: The sword swinging valiant hero. Belle: Brains of the group who knows all the info on books and un-magical things. Rumple: A now powerless sage/advisor of sorts whose able to train one in magic like no other. Hook: A wise cracking pirate whose voyaged all the seas, navigator. And now Zelena: A powerful witch with high knowledge of magic of nearly all sorts. Everyone can have a part to play without stealing anyone else’s spot….if anything, Zelena will be the “Belle” of magic, knowing all things magical and enchanting. Rumple’s place would be like a sage or advisor now.
This is great. And I think its important that everyone will not be all on board to Save Emma like they were to Save Henry. All of these people have different motivations and priorities, which is where the angst can be found.
Case in point, Belle. She has a lot of reasons never to work with Regina OR Zelena, but The Charmings and Robin are her friends. What does she do?
Rumple is depowered, but is still very knowledgable and crafty. What would his motivation be to Save Emma? And Zelena’s in town. How does he feel about that?
Hook will be right in the mix, but he has a LONG history. We saw how far Hook went to avenge Milah. How far will he go to Save Emma? Also who knows who he’s pissed off over the years.
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