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Meh. Maybe. Not convinced. In a way it makes sense. But I like that they have written the story in a way that Regina doesn’t feel a void in that regard. She has a child and is content with that. That said, the scene in the bar showed us briefly that she would like to have a child with Robin.
I’m not overly fond of the idea that sex with your soul mate/true love suddenly reverses a barren potion. It’s silly, even for a show that harps on TL and uses the TLK as a plot device as much as this one does, but I also know that Regina continues to be A and E’s favorite toy and they aren’t about to deny their favorite toy a chance at ALL THE THINGS.
[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Meh. Maybe. Not convinced. In a way it makes sense. But I like that they have written the story in a way that Regina doesn’t feel a void in that regard. She has a child and is content with that. That said, the scene in the bar showed us briefly that she would like to have a child with Robin.
I’m not overly fond of the idea that sex with your soul mate/true love suddenly reverses a barren potion. It’s silly, even for a show that harps on TL and uses the TLK as a plot device as much as this one does, but I also know that Regina continues to be A and E’s favorite toy and they aren’t about to deny their favorite toy a chance at ALL THE THINGS.
Heheh. Well. No more silly than a magical potion for making a person instantly barren, right 😉
It’s a tricky balance. But what I like about OUAT is that anything is essentially possible. But with that also comes great responsibility for how the storyline is handled. Most often it works, but sometimes it just runs a bit amok, which I think is the case with Zelena’s preganancy more than anything. But I hope the writers can prove me wrong. Whether or not Regina will end up having a child with Robin … I’m open to that, but still torn about whether or not it will happen.
I don’t think Regina plans to steal Zelena’s baby away from her. She wants the baby to be born because it’s Robin’s child. Other than that, I don’t think she has planned it further other than she wants to be with Robin. They are in quite a predicament, because they really aren’t in a position to set Zelena free – to care for her child – because they cannot trust her with anything.
I’m pretty sure Regina did say she was going to take the child and Zelena’s contact would be very limited or in other words practically non-existent. Found it “The most restrictive visitation rights in history”.
Here’s the scene.
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixI don’t think Regina plans to steal Zelena’s baby away from her. She wants the baby to be born because it’s Robin’s child. Other than that, I don’t think she has planned it further other than she wants to be with Robin. They are in quite a predicament, because they really aren’t in a position to set Zelena free – to care for her child – because they cannot trust her with anything.
I’m pretty sure Regina did say she was going to take the child and Zelena’s contact would be very limited or in other words practically non-existent. Found it “The most restrictive visitation rights in history”. Here’s the scene.
Yes, I remember the scene, but I took it to mean Zelena’s current visits in the cell. That while she’s pregnant she’ll be cared for in that cell – alone and not get any visits until the next ultrasound. But you may be right. If so, what else can Regina and Robin do than keep Zelena locked up and let her see her child sometimes. At present, they cannot really make other plans until they see if Zelena is changing for the better to be there for her child – and not trying to take down everyone else … They don’t even know if she wants the child as she did it only to spite Regina.
Heheh. Well. No more silly than a magical potion for making a person instantly barren, right ?
Sure, though I have less issue with that since a “barren potion” is just straight up fairy tale and perfectly fits in any magical sort of mythos. But the idea that “ah yes. Your exact sperm and my exact egg are what was needed to render this previous magical potion inert cause true love, baby!” is rather…well, eyebrow raising. I mean I get it from a poetic standpoint: OQ-true love was strong enough to overcome everything including what should be irreparable damage to internal organs but from a non-magical, non-poetic standpoint it’s getting a little too close to that line of just straight up silly when you factor in human biology and that these people–fairy tale characters though they may be–are still that, people. But then again, so was Rumple’s magical artery blockage….(and the hospital that let him go less than 24 hours after apparently suffering a heart attack…but, ‘k)
I guess I just stand by my original assertion that making Zelena pregnant in the first place was an egregiously poor idea. But….that horse has left the barn.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Heheh. Well. No more silly than a magical potion for making a person instantly barren, right
Sure, though I have less issue with that since a “barren potion” is just straight up fairy tale and perfectly fits in any magical sort of mythos. But the idea that “ah yes. Your exact sperm and my exact egg are what was needed to render this previous magical potion inert cause true love, baby!” is rather…well, eyebrow raising. I mean I get it from a poetic standpoint: OQ-true love was strong enough to overcome everything including what should be irreparable damage to internal organs but from a non-magical, non-poetic standpoint it’s getting a little too close to that line of just straight up silly when you factor in human biology and that these people–fairy tale characters though they may be–are still that, people. But then again, so was Rumple’s magical artery blockage….(and the hospital that let him go less than 24 hours after apparently suffering a heart attack…but, ‘k) I guess I just stand by my original assertion that making Zelena pregnant in the first place was an egregiously poor idea. But….that horse has left the barn.
LOL. Yes. I agree about that darn horse 😉
My point is that we don’t know what that potion did or what it even was. So factoring biology into it … probably not a good idea. The writers may even come up with a counter potion … A lot about the mythology of magic on OUAT has yet to be explained. Do potions make spells? If so, by that logic, biology is arbitrary, and the whole situation is just down to … well, magic. Mixing the two, magic and biology, will fry our brains …
The whole Zelena pregnancy plot is a mess….but something good can come from this if written and handled correctly.
For one, redemption. I know to some people that redemption through the love of a child maybe cliché, but from Zelena’s standpoint…she’d finally have someone who will choose her, hopefully despite her wrong doing. Zelena was only wicked and jealous because she never felt loved enough, and had severe abandonment issues……having a child, something that is finally her’s and not Regina’s, could heal her from that.
Regina’s threat was I do believe only because Zelena was locked in the mental hospital….however, I’m hoping/thinking that she will see that this child will do to Zelena, what Henry did to her, which is change her into a better person. This could even serve to better WickedSisters into a more healthier relationship, the bonding Regina and Zelena could share through this child, Zelena overcoming her pride to come to Regina with help for the baby, and Regina having not been pregnant herself, inquiring as to how the experience is. Something meant for bad can turn into good.
As for Regina getting pregnant herself, in the end I’m good with either direction taken. Regina already practically has three kids she raised, Snow White, Henry, and Roland, not to mention she’ll be Baby Greenbean’s step-mother as well….so, she could be quite content with her family. However, if they do want Regina to get pregnant, I don’t want it to be through TLS (True Love’s Sex), I’d much prefer if Merlin undid the effects of the barren potion as a reward to Regina for all the hard work she’s put into her redemption.
Overall, some good can come from this mess. But only if Adam and Eddy do it right. Regina and Zelena shouldn’t be instant secret sharing, hair braiding, Elsa and Anna 2.0 Sisters in the season premiere….it should be a build-up, and I’m not just saying till 5×11, probably more so around the Season 5 Finale.
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
The whole Zelena pregnancy plot is a mess….but something good can come from this if written and handled correctly. For one, redemption. I know to some people that redemption through the love of a child maybe cliché, but from Zelena’s standpoint…she’d finally have someone who will choose her, hopefully despite her wrong doing. Zelena was only wicked and jealous because she never felt loved enough, and had severe abandonment issues……having a child, something that is finally her’s and not Regina’s, could heal her from that. Regina’s threat was I do believe only because Zelena was locked in the mental hospital….however, I’m hoping/thinking that she will see that this child will do to Zelena, what Henry did to her, which is change her into a better person. This could even serve to better WickedSisters into a more healthier relationship, the bonding Regina and Zelena could share through this child, Zelena overcoming her pride to come to Regina with help for the baby, and Regina having not been pregnant herself, inquiring as to how the experience is. Something meant for bad can turn into good. As for Regina getting pregnant herself, in the end I’m good with either direction taken. Regina already practically has three kids she raised, Snow White, Henry, and Roland, not to mention she’ll be Baby Greenbean’s step-mother as well….so, she could be quite content with her family. However, if they do want Regina to get pregnant, I don’t want it to be through TLS (True Love’s Sex), I’d much prefer if Merlin undid the effects of the barren potion as a reward to Regina for all the hard work she’s put into her redemption. Overall, some good can come from this mess. But only if Adam and Eddy do it right. Regina and Zelena shouldn’t be instant secret sharing, hair braiding, Elsa and Anna 2.0 Sisters in the season premiere….it should be a build-up, and I’m not just saying till 5×11, probably more so around the Season 5 Finale.
I agree with everything you say here.
Only thing I would add is that I have doubts about Zelena’s redemption. The writers will either choose that direction, which could work, OR prove that she’s beyond the reach of redemption not to repeat Regina’s arc. The thought even occurred to me that Zelena may become The Dark One after Emma and thus very dangerous and with implications for the child.
Love your idea that Merlin will somehow reward Regina. That’s actually better in a way.
I know the way Zelena went about getting pregnant was wrong on many levels yet I find Regina’s “solution” to the problem, taking an innocent baby away from its mother, to be just as wrong.
Regina said Zelena would have very restricted visitation rights. That’s not taking a baby away from its mother. And considering its Zelena, that’s well within Robin’s rights to enforce.
However, if they do want Regina to get pregnant, I don’t want it to be through TLS (True Love’s Sex), I’d much prefer if Merlin undid the effects of the barren potion as a reward to Regina for all the hard work she’s put into her redemption.
TLS. Hehe. I actually think Regina’s infertility will come up next season, but she won’t get pregnant. I think water of Lake Nostros will be reintroduced, because of the Lady in the Lake tie-in, but I don’t think that will produce a child.
I know the way Zelena went about getting pregnant was wrong on many levels yet I find Regina’s “solution” to the problem, taking an innocent baby away from its mother, to be just as wrong.
Regina said Zelena would have very restricted visitation rights. That’s not taking a baby away from its mother. And considering its Zelena, that’s well within Robin’s rights to enforce.
Just to clarify. The above is not my quote. I agree with the comment below the faulty quote. Robin is well within his right to restrict Zelena’s access if the child is born. She’s a loose cannon at this point.
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