- This topic has 11 replies, 9 voices, and was last updated 8 years, 4 months ago by
.
-
Posts
-
I’d like some Once Upon a Time spoilers please. — Jane
The introduction of the Land of Untold Stories basically opens up storytelling avenues to, well, “everyone,” according to Edward Kitsis. “What’s funny is in the pilot if you watch when Emma sees the wolf that stops her from leaving town, the book flips open and we see all these worlds,” Kitsis says. “It’s time to tell new stories, broaden the show and move forward.” As for why these stories have not yet been told, Kitsis points to something Hyde said in the finale: “As he said, I need a place where these stories can play out, which would make me think for some reason they weren’t being played out, they were pushed on pause.”Source: http://www.ew.com/article/2016/07/08/spoiler-room-blindspot-legends-tomorrow-agents-shield
[adrotate group="5"]AKA: We’re slowly running out of the most famous/beloved Disney lore….
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Once is getting so meta. First when the villains were being all “we’re villains! we don’t get happy endings!” Now the people in the stories are aware they are in stories and want them to be told.
"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGICThey keep trying to explain why the stories are known in our world and not in the fairytale world and i think they just shouldn’t try to explain that.
They keep trying to explain why the stories are known in our world and not in the fairytale world and i think they just shouldn’t try to explain that.
Is it too early to quote Rumple? “Your questions are pointless”
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Is it too early to quote Rumple? “Your questions are pointless”
That quote has proven to work so well, that I think it’s been quite a while since you’ve used your old “PLOT” catchphrase.
“It’s time to tell new stories, broaden the show and move forward.”
Seriously? This is precisely what the show doesn’t need to do and why I predict season 6 will continue to erode the quality of the show even further. It doesn’t need broadening; it needs condensing! All the loose threads need to be tied up and the show ended, ASAP. That right there is the reason why OUAT will never gain in quality or momentum again. The show runners don’t realize the narrative has gone on too long and doesn’t need expansion. If they want to create a spin off series like Neverland, then fine, but don’t drag out a show that already has gone on too long and has no narrative direction anymore.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
“It’s time to tell new stories, broaden the show and move forward.”
Seriously? This is precisely what the show doesn’t need to do and why I predict season 6 will continue to erode the quality of the show even further. It doesn’t need broadening; it needs condensing! All the loose threads need to be tied up and the show ended, ASAP. That right there is the reason why OUAT will never gain in quality or momentum again. The show runners don’t realize the narrative has gone on too long and doesn’t need expansion. If they want to create a spin off series like Neverland, then fine, but don’t drag out a show that already has gone on too long and has no narrative direction anymore.
I both agree and disagree with this. It isn’t so much about condensing the show but integrating new characters better. We don’t need new characters flashbacks straight away, we as the audience need to get to know these characters before we care about their past. The way to do that would be to have the characters interact with the core group in PRESENT DAY instead of trying to force them in to the core group’s past.
In season 1 we had the core group (Regina, Emma, Henry, Rumple, Snow and Charming) with their flashbacks but also had the supporting group (Archie, Red, Grumpy, Granny) that appeared in the main group’s flashbacks and interacted with them in present day before they had their own flashbacks with guest appearances by the core group.
An example of not integrating well would be with MAP. Those characters were more liked by the end of season 2 but nobody liked them in their initial episode because they were seen as taking valuable screen time away from the characters we cared about. We were invested in the Storybrooke side of things, not this sudden new trio.
The show was right to hold off Hook’s flashbacks (Second star to the right/and straight on ’til morning were ultimately Bae’s flashbacks) until the audience had become more invested in his character. However, I think the reason Hook is such a divisive character is that he was initially presented negatively especially in relation to Rumple but as the seasons have progressed the writers have tried to pull a quick 180 where Rumple is portrayed negatively in relation to Hook and it hasn’t taken because people actually do remember events in previous seasons. (There are also obviously other reasons.) Hook would’ve been better off being presented as a neutral character and then progressed to their as opposed to how he was.
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixI both agree and disagree with this. It isn’t so much about condensing the show but integrating new characters better. We don’t need new characters flashbacks straight away, we as the audience need to get to know these characters before we care about their past. The way to do that would be to have the characters interact with the core group in PRESENT DAY instead of trying to force them in to the core group’s past.
I don’t think it’s simply a matter of integrating new characters better in the present day, since the writers have shown they’re incapable of doing so. You gave the example of Hook, but what narrative purpose does he serve now? Sure, Colin is pretty to look at, but when the writers tried making Hook the reason that Emma fully embraced the darkness and dragged her family to hell, all it really did is make Emma seem desperate and unhinged and that relationship really unhealthy. Unless that was the entire point, it was bad all around. In 5×1-5×3, Emma was mad at her family (the implication being that originally everyone in Emma’s family had failed her, except Henry, which is what made her turn dark). Then in 5×7, the writers changed course. Her goal of saving Hook, no matter the cost, is what turned her dark after all, rather than her family failing her. Clearly, that was done in attempt to give Hook’s character major relevance. But that had poor effects on everyone in S5. Also, Hook has never really been integrated with the group beyond Emma. Sure, Emma convinced her family to go to hell to get her boyfriend back, but they weren’t there for Hook. They were there for Emma, which made Emma feel really guilty and ended up costing Merlin and Robin Hood their lives. Robin Hood is another excellent example of a character who never really fit into the core group, despite being Regina’s boyfriend. The writers never fully integrated him nor even tried to make him interesting. He was never given a good backstory, nor was he given much to do, except be raped by Zelena (twitch). Thus, they killed him. That is my long way of saying that I don’t think the outside characters simply need to be included better. I think the writers simply need to stop trying to introduce outside characters, since when the writers have clearly tried that before, they’ve shown they do a very poor job of it.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
I both agree and disagree with this. It isn’t so much about condensing the show but integrating new characters better. We don’t need new characters flashbacks straight away, we as the audience need to get to know these characters before we care about their past. The way to do that would be to have the characters interact with the core group in PRESENT DAY instead of trying to force them in to the core group’s past.
I don’t think it’s simply a matter of integrating new characters better in the present day, since the writers have shown they’re incapable of doing so. You gave the example of Hook, but what narrative purpose does he serve now? Sure, Colin is pretty to look at and Hook is supposedly Emma’s new idea of a happy ending, but when the writers tried making him the reason that Emma fully embraced the darkness and dragged her family to hell, all it really did is make Emma seem desperate and unhinged. In 5×1-5×3, Emma was mad at her family (the implication being that originally everyone in Emma’s family had failed her, except Henry, which is what made her turn dark). Then in 5×7, the writers changed course. Her goal of saving Hook, no matter the cost, is what turned her dark after all, rather than her family failing her. Clearly, that was done in attempt to give Hook’s character major relevance. But that had poor effects on everyone in S5. Also, Hook has never really been integrated with the group beyond Emma. Sure, Emma convinced her family to go to hell to get her boyfriend back, but they weren’t there for Hook. They were there for Emma, which made Emma feel really guilty and ended up costing Merlin and Robin Hood their lives. Robin Hood is another excellent example of a character who never really fit into the core group, despite being Regina’s boyfriend. He was never given a good backstory, nor was he given much to do, except be raped by Zelena (twitch). Thus, they killed him. That is my long way of saying that I don’t think the outside characters simply need to be included better. I think the writers simply need to stop trying to introduce outside characters, since when the writers have clearly tried that before, they’ve shown they do a very poor good job of it.
Well as far as we already know, that major relevance for Hook wasn’t a great success. It already lost alot of ratings and viewers of the general audience. He hardly did anything at all like Robin.
The topic ‘EW 7/8 – Spoiler Room – Time to Tell New Stories’ is closed to new replies.