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November 17, 2014 at 2:41 pm #290516obisgirlParticipant
As if Emma didn’t have enough on her plate, now there’s a very real possibility that her pirate boyfriend is going to die—she just doesn’t know it yet.
During Sunday’s episode of Once Upon a Time, Hook (Colin O’Donoghue) attempted to stop Rumple (Robert Carlyle) from stealing Emma’s (Jennifer Morrison) powers. Thwarted after Elsa (Georgina Haig) helped Emma get her powers under control, Rumple set his sights on getting the other ingredient he needs to rid himself of the dagger: the heart of someone who knew him before he was the Dark One. Unfortunately, the only person left alive from that era is Hook, whose heart is swiftly ripped out. Though he’s not dead yet, Rumple vows to kill Hook once he’s run a few errands for him first.
“Hook firmly believes that Rumpelstiltskin is going to kill him,” O’Donoghue tells EW. “He has to do whatever Rumple tells him to, but he can’t help but already miss the idea of not having Emma. He’s desperate to try and figure out a way to survive, but for somebody who prides himself on being a survivor, this is the last grasp.”
With the Snow Queen (Elizabeth Mitchell) having released the Spell of Shattered Sight, Emma may not realize her new beau is a dead man walking. “She senses something, but she doesn’t have time to figure out,” Morrison says, noting that Hook’s lack of heart won’t necessarily change things between them. “As we’ve established before, Regina [Lana Parrilla] spent a long time without her heart and it didn’t stop her from loving Henry [Jared Gilmore] or Robin Hood [Sean Maguire]. Hook doesn’t cease being Hook and doesn’t cease having the feelings that he has for Emma. He’s just blackmailed into a circumstance where Gold can, at any moment, control him. He hates having this secret from Emma and he doesn’t know what it means in the long run, what she would do if she found out this secret.”
Sadly, it won’t be long before Rumple puts Hook to use. “He uses Hook as a hit man to get [other magical beings],” O’Donoghue says. “He really doesn’t want to have to do that, and it’s killing him to have to pretend to Emma that everything is okay. Hook does some things that he really doesn’t want to and wishes that he didn’t have to. He’s remorseful for that, but he has no choice.”
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http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/11/17/once-upon-time-hook-dead-morrison-odonoghue/
[adrotate group="5"]November 17, 2014 at 2:51 pm #290519SlurpeezParticipantWith the Snow Queen (Elizabeth Mitchell) having released the Spell of Shattered Sight, Emma may not realize her new beau is a dead man walking. “She senses something, but she doesn’t have time to figure out,” Morrison says, noting that Hook’s lack of heart won’t necessarily change things between them. “As we’ve established before, Regina [Lana Parrilla] spent a long time without her heart and it didn’t stop her from loving Henry [Jared Gilmore] or Robin Hood [Sean Maguire]. Hook doesn’t cease being Hook and doesn’t cease having the feelings that he has for Emma. He’s just blackmailed into a circumstance where Gold can, at any moment, control him. He hates having this secret from Emma and he doesn’t know what it means in the long run, what she would do if she found out this secret.”
This seems inconsistent with how Graham, Cora and Will Scarlet were portrayed without a heart. Graham couldn’t feel anything. Cora couldn’t love Rumple or even love Regina because she removed her own heart. Likewise, we saw in Wonderland how not having a heart negatively altered Will Scarlet. It was only after Cora’s heart was put back in her own body that she realized Regina would’ve been enough. Likewise, it was only after Will’s heart was forcibly put back inside him that he was able to forgive Ana and feel something for her again. I suppose Graham was able to feel something again after Emma kissed him and he remembered his fairytale life. Both Hook and Graham have kissed Emma, but Regina hasn’t to our knowledge, so savior lips can’t be the only answer. Just seems like messy folklore to me. So why are Regina and Hook able to feel things without a heart while Graham, Cora and Will Scarlet were unable to do so while heartless? That doesn’t make sense to me. What are the “rules” of heart lore supposed to be?
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
November 17, 2014 at 2:55 pm #290521RumplesGirlKeymasterAs if Emma didn’t have enough on her plate, now there’s a very real possibility that her pirate boyfriend is going to die—she just doesn’t know it yet.
*hits head on desk over and over*
THIS IS WHY WE CAN’T HAVE NICE THINGS.
There is a greater chance of the moon shattering into a million pieces and becoming little happy butterflies than there is of Hook dying.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"November 17, 2014 at 2:57 pm #290522PriceofMagicParticipantIf your heartless you shouldn’t really be able to feel anything. You should be numb. You might know what you’re supposed to feel and fake it but you can’t actually feel it without a heart.
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixNovember 17, 2014 at 3:01 pm #290525SlurpeezParticipantIf your heartless you shouldn’t really be able to feel anything. You should be numb. You might know what you’re supposed to feel and fake it but you can’t actually feel it without a heart.
I agree. That is how it was for Will in Wonderland, and it actually made sense. Now suddenly it seems a bit too convenient for Regina and Hook to feel something despite being heartless. It doesn’t feel natural to the story the way say, Will being heartless accounted for him being a bit of a jerk, when really, he was a man who didn’t want to feel anything and so agreed for Cora to make him heartless.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
November 17, 2014 at 3:34 pm #290532obisgirlParticipantThere is a greater chance of the moon shattering into a million pieces and becoming little happy butterflies than there is of Hook dying.
I agree. I’m not really worried about Hook dying.
I think the only two people likely to die this first half are Marian and Ingrid.
November 17, 2014 at 10:50 pm #290643CindersParticipant“He uses Hook as a hit man to get [other magical beings],” O’Donoghue says.
A hit man? Yikes! And, it’s plural! [other magical beings].
I wonder who Rumple sends Hook out to kill. I mean, besides Ingrid.
Would he put a hit out on, gasp, Regina? Double gasp! Blue? Emma?November 17, 2014 at 11:21 pm #290646PheeParticipantIf your heartless you shouldn’t really be able to feel anything. You should be numb. You might know what you’re supposed to feel and fake it but you can’t actually feel it without a heart.
The way he acted with Emma in the scene right after he’d had his heart removed, it seemed to me he was trying to over compensate to try and cover up the lack of heart. So reading what they say about how nothing’s changed, it just doesn’t jive with that IMO, (on top of how inconsistent it is with previously established missing heart lore).
November 17, 2014 at 11:44 pm #290648goodformParticipantI think Regina is going to be the one to figure out that hook does not have a heart. She is very tuned into dark magic. I also think that Bell is going to be the one to tell everyone that rumple has not changed and will separate from
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November 18, 2014 at 1:47 am #290649CindersParticipantI wonder if Belle ever thought it was disturbing to see that jar in Rumple’s shop. You know, that jar with Hook’s hand in it. I wonder if it creeped her out knowing Rumple keeps body parts in jars. A hand in a jar on this counter. Oh, and a human heart in that box over there. I wonder if she was curious, or ever asked about it. Surely it’s in the inventory. Probably has a little description card in that “handy” inventory box.
Oh, and I wonder if Belle ever does Rumple’s laundry for him. Possibly empties his pockets before sending his suits out to be laundered. Oh, wait. What’s this? A telephone?
Come on Belle! Wake up! Your man is horribly broken. You need to either help him, or run. But seriously, you at minimum need a scene where you acknowledge that something has changed in the man you love.
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