EW: Elsa and Anna's Small Screen Adventure (July 17, 2014)

[TheWatcher]

Even if Olaf isn’t seen, I hope he gets a brief mention so we know that he atleast EXISTS in the OUAT world. The article, to me, just says we won’t see him, not that he isn’t there

[PanTheMan]

So I’m guessing Elizabeth Mitchell’s character will already be living in Storybrooke. Glad they gave us enough to narrow down who she is.

[Myril]

The quotes are from the insidetv interview (thanks corbin)

Horowitz: In Once Upon a Time, we’ve approached these stories in different ways. Sometimes it’s like the Peter Pan way, where there’s a complete flip on the character and that’s our twist on it. And other times it’s about how these characters that we know fit in this world on this show—and that’s more what we’re doing with Frozen. We want to be true to the characters, we don’t want to change what they were in the movie, we want to be true to what we love about them and what everybody loves about them. Instead, we want the twist to be how they fit into our universe.

He meant their twist on the Disney version of Peter Pan, right? Because there are other versions and in the play and books he is even a bit of a creep (though of course not Rumple’s evil psychopath father). Even as kid I didn’t like Peter Pan that much.

Kitsis: (…) It was like seeing two toys on a shelf we wanted to take off and play with.

I fear as much. More toys to play with, more little understanding of the richness of the tales and the characters.

Horowitz: We sometimes like to think of our show as a Disney cul de sac. You can come in, and have some fun with the characters, leave, and the characters are what you loved before.

Maybe my language skills are not the best, but doesn’t cul-de-sac mean a blind alley, dead-end? In English and in French (my French particular is rusty though). I mean, I could agree with OUaT being a kind of dead-end for good story telling though.

Elsa didn’t have a love story in the movie, and that was part of what some really liked about her. Will you give her one here?

Kitsis: What’s interesting to us about Elsa is not who she falls in love with. Our show has always been about family. Love is our franchise but most of our love has been about families coming together. What we love about Elsa is that she is uncomfortable with her power, she’s lonely but wasn’t quite sure how to break that loneliness — it took the love of her sister. So we’re not interested in Elsa meeting someone, we’re interested in exploring her as a person, like we have with Regina the past few years.
Horowitz: We’re not planning to put Elsa on match.com. We’re more interested in what the movie explored, the relationship between sisters, and that relationship will be central to the story.

Oh, the show is about family. But Emma needed by all means not one but THREE love stories in her life (Neal, Walsh though short, Hook), and Regina has to have her true love destined by pixie dust. Not to mention that Rumple seems to be the man. And Snow and her daughter have little relation. All about family. Sure. Whatever. Maybe in season 1, once upon a time so to speak.

Don’t get me wrong, I want them to stay true to the characters as the movie set them up, at the core the love between sisters. Still I had to laugh reading that.

And despite that I nourished some tiny hope for a while, I was already quite sure that OUaT would have not the spine to go somewhere else with Elsa. They are stuck in traditional views though still telling themselves how incredible inventive they are. They can try to prove me wrong but I don’t expect this show to have a decent and even less a good LGBTQI+ character story ever. If it comes to diversity I have given up on the show.

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[WickedRegal]

Ok….everything else! Great, we get a better understanding of where they’re heading in S4, and I already somewhat love it, despite the rather obvious complications that’s going to happen.

But! Who is E. Mitchell playing…it’s driving me nuts! The Snow Queen, Elsa and Anna’s mother, both, neither, can they please spill the beans already!

"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor

[MatthewPaul]

In all honesty, if they couldn’t get Josh Gad to reprise his role as the voice of Olaf, having a CGI Olaf may not have been worth it. Josh Gad IS Olaf, as far as I’m concerned.

[TheWatcher]

And despite that I nourished some tiny hope for a while, I was already quite sure that OUaT would have not the spine to go somewhere else with Elsa. They are stuck in traditional views though still telling themselves how incredible inventive they are. They can try to prove me wrong but I don’t expect this show to have a decent and even less a good LGBTQI+ character story ever. If it comes to diversity I have given up on the show.

Now, now, have we all forgot about Mulan?

"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
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[RumplesGirl]

Myril wrote:

And despite that I nourished some tiny hope for a while, I was already quite sure that OUaT would have not the spine to go somewhere else with Elsa. They are stuck in traditional views though still telling themselves how incredible inventive they are. They can try to prove me wrong but I don’t expect this show to have a decent and even less a good LGBTQI+ character story ever. If it comes to diversity I have given up on the show.

Now, now, have we all forgot about Mulan?

you mean the one time briefly ambiguously mentioned bisexual who has never been spoken of again?

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[Gaultheria]

Most of dramatic television (that isn’t a warped “reality” mess of humanity~ which should fall under the label of nauseous farce) is *expensive fan fiction* and when the fans of a concept are very productive and creative writers, we all can win. Most script writers start out as huge fans of a genre, a character or a story that they want to re-tell.

I think writers need detachment so that they’ll know when their writing fails. If the writers are fans — or maybe “Fans” as opposed to “fans” — then it can be as if their internal critic is asleep, letting their fiction become precious. Neil Gaiman wrote the Doctor Who episode “The Doctor’s Wife”, and adult fans who watched DW’s first era as kids seem to adore this episode. I started watching the new DW in 2005 as an adult, and I’ve enjoyed DW for the most part, but I found the Doctor’s conversations with this episode’s main guest character to be nearly unbearable in their “tributeness”.

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[TheWatcher]

you mean the one time briefly ambiguously mentioned bisexual who has never been spoken of again?

Well I dont think that’s fair. Didn’t the actress who played Mulan have another show to do? I’m sure when she is free things will pick up right where they left off and we will see how the Mulan/Aurora/Phillip triangle plays out. I dont think we are done with them forever. The writers have set us up for that and there is no way they can just set us up and then leave us hanging. *cough* though I wouldn’t be surprised >_> *cough* if not Aurora, if Mulan ends up with anyone romantically I’m sure it will ee another woman. I just cannot imagine A&E not going that route as that would leave alot of people, myself included highly upset. I say there is still hope for LGBT characters on this show. Elsa isn’t the only person we could have hoped for. Lets not forget before Elsa, Merida was seen by some to be a figure of LGBT community for awhile. So yeah…*totes lost train of thought*

"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGIC

[RumplesGirl]

 

RumplesGirl wrote:

you mean the one time briefly ambiguously mentioned bisexual who has never been spoken of again?

Well I dont think that’s fair. Didn’t the actress who played Mulan have another show to do? I’m sure when she is free things will pick up right where they left off and we will see how the Mulan/Aurora/Phillip triangle plays out. I dont think we are done with them forever. The writers have set us up for that and there is no way they can just set us up and then leave us hanging. *cough* though I wouldn’t be surprised >_> *cough* if not Aurora, if Mulan ends up with anyone romantically I’m sure it will ee another woman. I just cannot imagine A&E not going that route as that would leave alot of people, myself included highly upset. I say there is still hope for LGBT characters on this show. Elsa isn’t the only person we could have hoped for. Lets not forget before Elsa, Merida was seen by some to be a figure of LGBT community for awhile. So yeah…*totes lost train of thought*

yes she had another show. However Jamie not being around does not change the fact that Aurora/Mulan were never dealt with nor does it change the fact that the relationship was left so ambiguous that people still think Mulan was talking about Philip nor does it change the fact that Mulan is never spoke of.

 

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