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Alright fine….but, the living situation has to change. Henry can’t possibly live with his grandparents, new uncle, and bio mother under a two bedroom, crammed apartment. I mean between that, and the four/five bedroom mansion Regina has….or even the four bedroom mansion Rumple has….the kid needs his own space.
Emma and Henry definitely need to move out of Snowing’s apartment, especially now that Henry’s almost a teenager, he doesn’t want to be sharing a room with his mom.
Also Rumple’s house is actually 6 bedrooms with 4 bathrooms and has at least 4 doors leading to outside.
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Keeper of FelixBut why….I mean….how come Emma gets Henry on Weekdays? In the eyes of the law, Emma is not his mother because she signed over all parental rights when she gave him up for adoption. Regina has legal, full custody of Henry, and raised him from three weeks to ten years. Now…sure this is Once, so Henry would have to spend time with Emma, but that time could really go back to how it used to be in Season 1, only this time….instead of Henry and Emma sneaking around Regina, Regina willingly allows Henry to go see Emma whenever he wants.
Well, there’s the issue of Regina gaslighting Henry throughout the whole first season and trying to kill his biological mother, which culminated in his getting caught in the crossfire and nearly dying. And then plotting with her mother to kill his entire biological family shortly thereafter, among other things. And if we’re going by our world’s legal system, then Regina wouldn’t have custody of Henry at all because she’d be in jail for murder, attempted murder, and wrongful imprisonment (and that’s only what she’s done in Storybrooke).
Don’t get me wrong; I do like Regina as a character (and she definitely has some of the best lines!) and in the context of a fantasy TV show, sure Henry should spend as much time with her as he wants since apparently he’s forgiven her and still loves her. 🙂 I’m just saying that it doesn’t make much sense to try to go by our laws for the custody arrangements but not for all of Regina’s very serious crimes.
I’m just saying that it doesn’t make much sense to try to go by our laws for the custody arrangements but not for all of Regina’s very serious crimes.
The legitimacy of the legality of the custody arrangement is questionable to begin with. If your address won’t show up on google maps there’s no way they’d let you have legal custody of a child.
Anyway, the point in this particular case is that Henry loves both his mothers, and the two of them had become more accepting of each other as well. If not for the bringing-back-Marian hot mess, Emma coulda just moved into one of the frillion spare rooms at Regina’s, making shared custody easy.
I hope they have something believable in store for showing Henry stuck between his mothers who are fighting all over again.
just doesn’t seem too fair, as the woman has only really known her son for two years.
You have 5 children. did you love each and every single one of them the moment you saw them for the first time.
Technically 4 kids, and of course….I’ve been in my kids lives since they were babies. Emma was not! You can love them from the moment you meet them, hence why Emma gave Henry up in the first place, wanting what’s best for him. It’s an entirely different situation when the mother has been absent for the first ten years of the child’s life, and then come back, acting as if they’ve always been there.
I got highly irritated with Emma when she said in 3×09 that she knew exactly how Regina felt about Henry. Had Henry died in NL, yes, Emma would have been crushed, but Regina would have been shattered! The reason why is because Regina raised Henry, been there for him for everything, has ALL of the memories from first steps, first words, first day of school! The time Regina shared with Henry would have intensified her pain to probably an unrepairable state , while Emma has a bigger chance of healing given few years.
Evidence: (3×09, Saving Henry)
“You Have No Idea What I Feel!” – Regina
“You’re Right…I Don’t Know How You Feel.” – Emma
Lana Parrilla herself said that Emma swooping into town, taking Henry was not gonna cut it!
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
You can love them from the moment you meet them,
And Emma loved Henry the moment she met him in the pilot, hence STAYING in town.
Look, the greater point is this: this is not about Regina and it’s not about Emma. It’s about HENRY. Herny needs BOTH his mothers, in equal measure. This is about the child, not two women squabbling over who has more RIGHT to the kid. Henry loves both his parents and wants to be with them both. Regina and Emma are the ADULTS here. They need to make it work, not fight about it.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"I’m just saying that it doesn’t make much sense to try to go by our laws for the custody arrangements but not for all of Regina’s very serious crimes.
The legitimacy of the legality of the custody arrangement is questionable to begin with. If your address won’t show up on google maps there’s no way they’d let you have legal custody of a child. Anyway, the point in this particular case is that Henry loves both his mothers, and the two of them had become more accepting of each other as well. If not for the bringing-back-Marian hot mess, Emma coulda just moved into one of the frillion spare rooms at Regina’s, making shared custody easy. I hope they have something believable in store for showing Henry stuck between his mothers who are fighting all over again.
Well….The fact that we were shown Regina adopting Henry was entirely legal….I thought it ended all debate on that aspect. Regina adopted Henry fair and square….Storybrooke may show up on Google, it’s just a place that no one can find! 😛
As a town of the United States, I’m sure Storybrooke is registered to be a real place as far as America is concerned, no one hasn’t been able to find it. That’s all. But The Adoption was legal!
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
You can love them from the moment you meet them,
And Emma loved Henry the moment she met him in the pilot, hence STAYING in town. Look, the greater point is this: this is not about Regina and it’s not about Emma. It’s about HENRY. Herny needs BOTH his mothers, in equal measure. This is about the child, not two women squabbling over who has more RIGHT to the kid. Henry loves both his parents and wants to be with them both. Regina and Emma are the ADULTS here. They need to make it work, not fight about it.
I agree with all of this…but the level Regina and Emma are on is very different. And the Charmings mindset of seeing them as equal, such as Snow’s “I don’t think Emma has to run anything by you anymore”….is a deep, deep issue, that has to be resolved…..very quickly!
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
Well….The fact that we were shown Regina adopting Henry was entirely legal….I thought it ended all debate on that aspect. Regina adopted Henry fair and square
Regina: I spent all morning talking to adoption agencies. The wait lists are over two years long. But you, Gold, you know how to cut through red tape. And if anyone can work the system and find me a baby, it’s you.
Working the system is illegal. Circumventing normal practices where an adoptive family is closely investigated, including having a home visit by social services, is illegal.
And if a parent brings their baby back for a refund it’s completely unbelievable that said parent would just be allowed to turn around and walk back out with the child because there’s obviously some instability there and the people who arrange adoptions go to great lengths (under usual, legal circumstances) to ensure that children go to safe, stable homes.
For so many reasons, the explanation we got as to how the adoption happened was unsatisfactory, and from what we saw it didn’t leave me at all convinced of the legitimacy of it. Just because Regina managed to dupe the authorities and come out on top, that doesn’t mean the adoption was actually above board and legal.
Well….The fact that we were shown Regina adopting Henry was entirely legal….I thought it ended all debate on that aspect. Regina adopted Henry fair and square
Regina: I spent all morning talking to adoption agencies. The wait lists are over two years long. But you, Gold, you know how to cut through red tape. And if anyone can work the system and find me a baby, it’s you. Working the system is illegal. Circumventing normal practices where an adoptive family is closely investigated, including having a home visit by social services, is illegal. And if a parent brings their baby back for a refund it’s completely unbelievable that said parent would just be allowed to turn around and walk back out with the child because there’s obviously some instability there and the people who arrange adoptions go to great lengths (under usual, legal circumstances) to ensure that children go to safe, stable homes. For so many reasons, the explanation we got as to how the adoption happened was unsatisfactory, and from what we saw it didn’t leave me at all convinced of the legitimacy of it. Just because Regina managed to dupe the authorities and come out on top, that doesn’t mean the adoption was actually above board and legal.
Well…we don’t know if Rumple did anything illegally? That’s an assumption many Oncers have made….but Rumple was in fact a lawyer. So I’m sure he knew all the lawyer things to know, and probably knew how to sweet talk the system into finding him a baby for adoption.
But this scene….was clear proof that Regina did go by regular route in adopting Henry. She legally adopted Henry, and by law, she is Henry’s mother. And by closed adoption, Emma signed over all parental rights….so in the eyes of the law, she is no longer Henry’s mother…Regina is. But now Regina is willingly sharing Henry with Emma, so they now share him.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGjLLQgb1Nw
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