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I’ll refrain from judging too harshly at the moment, but gotta say, it feels a little like having ones cake and eating it too
Which is why the narrative reason for Emma going fully dark after struggling against seems to be PLOT as opposed to a logical and concise in show reason. I suppose we could say we don’t know much about the dark curse and therefore don’t know the logical and concise rules, but…well your cake metaphor works. It’s easy to brush aside the criticism with “well we just don’t know.” (read: we don’t know because they don’t know and likely haven’t thought it out until now when they need to because…say it with me…PLOT)
True. I forgot about ‘because PLOT’. And since OUAT makes little sense at the best of times (read: when it’s all playing out in front of our eyes) it of course makes even less sense when all we have to go on are spoilers out of context. So, full judgement later, tiny bit of judgement right now.
I shall be silent on the TLK thing because… judgement. I would love it if Emma defeated the darkness on her own. That would actually be consistent with what we’ve seen from her in the past. She always saves herself. I’m not too confident that that will happen this time around as well.
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That is a lot to deal with and I think all of those things combined could push her to the place where she does accept the darkness, because to Dark Emma, it means being free of all of those ‘things’ for the first time.
Ultimately I think that’s where it’s going to go. It’s another narrative point that has been given weight in the show previous to Emma-namely with Regina and Rumple that darkness is easier than fighting for the light.
It’s not a *bad* idea. And I’ve certainly enjoyed moments for Rumple and Regina over the years showing that plot point. I just don’t know that Emma’s in a place where it suddenly is easier to just accept the darkness than to fight. She has things to fight for, even if she’s had a falling out and slight resolution to falling out with Snowing. Namely: Henry.
Henry has been her center for 4 seasons. She fights to get home to Henry. Always. That has been Emma’s drive. It’s one of the quintessential character follow throughs for Emma Swan. She’ll face a dragon, for Henry. She’ll battle a giant and Cora, for Henry. She’ll go to Neverland and declare herself a mother, for Henry. She’ll leave her family behind to be sucked up in a swirling purple cloud of terror (lots of clouds of terror over the years), for Henry. She’ll kill Cruella, for Henry. She’ll believe that Henry will find her in a Author-inspired alternate reality. Henry is and always shall be her true love. So for Emma to give in to the darkness because it’s easier than facing her current situation (even if that situation isn’t as dire as it has been in the past) and not fight for Henry at the very least…well that just feels outta character.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Henry has been her center for 4 seasons. She fights to get home to Henry. Always. That has been Emma’s drive. It’s one of the quintessential character follow throughs for Emma Swan. She’ll face a dragon, for Henry. She’ll battle a giant and Cora, for Henry. She’ll go to Neverland and declare herself a mother, for Henry. She’ll leave her family behind to be sucked up in a swirling purple cloud of terror (lots of clouds of terror over the years), for Henry. She’ll kill Cruella, for Henry. She’ll believe that Henry will find her in a Author-inspired alternate reality. Henry is and always shall be her true love. So for Emma to give in to the darkness because it’s easier than facing her current situation (even if that situation isn’t as dire as it has been in the past) and not fight for Henry at the very least…well that just feels outta character.
Without wanting to ruffle any feathers — it’s Emma’s and Henry’s true love that I think will ultimately be featured with a TLK by the end of season 5. I know a lot of people are rooting for a romantic kiss for Emma, but I just have this feeling that a kiss from Henry to Emma would be the best way to end the entire series. Think about it: it was Emma’s true love for Henry that saved him in S1, and if s5 were to be the last season, then Emma fighting her inner darkness for the sake of Henry, and Henry likewise fighting for his mom, would be the ultimate series finale ever, climaxing with Henry kissing Emma to set her free. It was maternal love that saved Henry, and I think that Henry’s and Emma’s child-parent bond could be what helps Emma break free from the clutch the darkness holds over her.
Also, Henry’s effort to save his mother from being consumed by the darkness would be an excellent parallel, and ultimate contrast, with Baelfire’s failed attempt to save his father from the darkness. Because Emma herself is True Love incarnate, and because the love she bares for her son is so strong, I think she would be willing to give up all the power for her son, whereas Rumple could not. The reason true love’s kiss didn’t work for Rumple was because, ultimately, he didn’t want to be powerless. As Belle said, Rumple’s true love was power, because he kept choosing it, even over his loved ones. However, we know that Rumple by nature was cowardly when he was just a spinner. Emma, by contrast, has never been craven. Emma is the total opposite of cowardly Rumple, who was too afraid to give up magic, even for Belle and Baelfire. Just like her father, Emma is especially brave when it comes to her protecting child; she is like a mother lioness guarding her cub. Emma giving up power because Henry means more to her than the power could be what helps free her and defeat the dark curse for good.
That maternal love emphasis of s5 could be where Merida from Brave could tie in. I’m pretty sure that Merida helped to save her mother from the bear curse with TLK. Maybe Henry could do likewise to help save Emma. The theme of maternal love could (hopefully) come front and center again, the way it was in S1. It would be a nice way to bookend the entire series if Emma’s canonical true love were simply her son, rather than any romantic partner. Emma and Henry are already confirmed as having maternal true love, and it would be a sort of resolution to have that familial kind of love being the “happily ever after” that was hinted at in the episode Going Home when Regina gave Emma and Henry happy memories of a life spent together. According to A&E, this show has always been about Emma and Henry’s fairy tale, so what better way to end the show than to have them turn out to be the ones who save one another?
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Henry rescuing Emma in the end would be a perfect way to end the series because it does come full circle with season 1, however…..according to Jane Espenson, they’ve got plans that go beyond Season 5, and I know how we all predicted Season 5 would be the end, but I’ve got a small feeling we’re getting a Season 6. I know, I know, don’t make assumptions because Season 5 hasn’t premiered and ratings and what not, but based on the acclaim OUAT received over this past summer from not just Paris but Brazil….a season 6 maybe possible.
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according to Jane Espenson, they’ve got plans that go beyond Season 5
Every show writer/runner on television has plans to go beyond their current season. It’s not up to the writers, in the end.
but based on the acclaim OUAT received over this past summer from not just Paris but Brazil….a season 6 maybe possible.
Oh it’s possible to be sure. But not because of Paris and Brazil. Two foreign locations have no say on an American network’s decision on whether or not to keep running a program.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"according to Jane Espenson, they’ve got plans that go beyond Season 5
Every show writer/runner on television has plans to go beyond their current season. It’s not up to the writers, in the end.
but based on the acclaim OUAT received over this past summer from not just Paris but Brazil….a season 6 maybe possible.
Oh it’s possible to be sure. But not because of Paris and Brazil. Two foreign locations have no say on an American network’s decision on whether or not to keep running a program.
Very true, I mean we all know OUAT is no HTGAWM, but it still holds it’s own ground, however shaky the ratings end up being. This Season can be a flip in either the right or the wrong direction, but if what the cast and crew are saying about OUAT returning back to focusing on the heart of the show which is the core cast, then hopefully the odds are in OUAT’s favor for a sixth season.
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
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