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A little while ago, Jane (I think) mentioned somewhere (Barbara Barnett interview perhaps) that she was writing some stuff at the time that had involved a certain character, but the actor wasn’t available, so they had to alter it. She said that when S3A was airing though, so it was probably too long ago to have been stuff that would have been for Graham, if we haven’t seen what they were planning yet. I dunno how far in advance the writers plot stuff like this out in detail.
Adam said that they planned out both halves of the Season together back during the Summer.
[adrotate group="5"]I wonder, Adam says a lot of contradictory things. They have a vision that they must stick too–but oh, if Stan or Dorhnan has time–we’ll write them in because like the fans, they want them back. Right.
I do think they’re hinting at wanting to resurrect a character as that’s what the whole wraith/MAP story was, and it has been dangling and obviously fans will think “well if they’re bringing anyone back alive who ought to be dead dead….GRAHAMMMMMMM!!!!” so they’re just anticipating it and saying we would have done it (whether true or not) but Jamie’s too busy now so deal, we can’t do it.
It’s fan management basically and name dropping to take advantage of Dornhan’s profile, same with STan. Hollywood is all about the buzz, isn’t it?
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
Maybe.. this isn’t for the fans. Maybe this is the important part of the story… planned from the beginning …
Adam said that they planned out both halves of the Season together back during the Summer.
Yeah I know, but from memory it seemed like it was something that came after the original pre-season plotting, and she was personally re-writing something as a work around. I don’t remember exactly when it was though, and if she could have potentially been referencing something for Quite A Common Fairy, or if she’d have already been working on the script for Witch Hunt or Bleeding Through way back then.
Adam said that they planned out both halves of the Season together back during the Summer.
Yeah I know, but from memory it seemed like it was something that came after the original pre-season plotting, and she was personally re-writing something as a work around. I don’t remember exactly when it was though, and if she could have potentially been referencing something for Quite A Common Fairy, or if she’d have already been working on the script for Witch Hunt or Bleeding Through way back then.
Maybe they also wanted Jamie Dornan back for “Save Henry”, since Sheriff Graham would have made sense taking part in that flashback.
A little while ago, Jane (I think) mentioned somewhere (Barbara Barnett interview perhaps) that she was writing some stuff at the time that had involved a certain character, but the actor wasn’t available, so they had to alter it. She said that when S3A was airing though, so it was probably too long ago to have been stuff that would have been for Graham, if we haven’t seen what they were planning yet. I dunno how far in advance the writers plot stuff like this out in detail.
I feel like this one would have been for Ruby which they ended up altering for Granny.
I wonder, Adam says a lot of contradictory things. They have a vision that they must stick too–but oh, if Stan or Dorhnan has time–we’ll write them in because like the fans, they want them back. Right.
I do think they’re hinting at wanting to resurrect a character as that’s what the whole wraith/MAP story was, and it has been dangling and obviously fans will think “well if they’re bringing anyone back alive who ought to be dead dead….GRAHAMMMMMMM!!!!” so they’re just anticipating it and saying we would have done it (whether true or not) but Jamie’s too busy now so deal, we can’t do it.
It’s fan management basically and name dropping to take advantage of Dornhan’s profile, same with STan. Hollywood is all about the buzz, isn’t it?
Yup, entertainment, media and news are pretty much all about buzz, not just Hollywood. We don’t know though, how this about Graham came up, in which context. For all we know, they could have been explicitly asked about Graham during a general press tour/meeting, because anything Jamie Dornan did before, does now, will do is a matter of interest for enterainment Buzz machine now that he is playing a buzz character on a buzz movie. It’s a difference, if they’re asked or if they’re bringing it up. If thinking in SEO ways, name dropping might make a bit of sense, riding on the wave of recent attention (and attention span in entertainment buzz is often short and erratic), but being constantly asked, if you might bring back in some way a certain character and actor, when the actor very obviously is not available at the moment can as well be annoying. Think they’re happier to talk about things they can do than to get sentimental about things that can’t be done (at least not at the moment or in any foreseeable future).
Don’t think it’s fan management, because frankly IMO they mostly suck at it. LOL
Don’t agree on Adam (or Eddy as well) saying a lot of contradictory things, but what they say is often open to interpretation. They keep things vague if it’s about upcoming stuff, of course they do, and we all read into it whatever we seem fit. And they have their view on and understanding of their stories and characters, and that is not always what we want it to be nor what we read into the stories and characters. It probably would do them better to sometimes give no commentary instead of tease, but that is easier said than done, seeing how we here are hungry and jumpying for every crumb of information and spoiler, and how pushy journalists can be (well, it is their job to be).
Having a plan for a story doesn’t mean it’s sketched out in all detail. That is particular true for tv shows, where the story unfolds over time, where the story or plot is still in the making, being written, while parts of it are already shown to the audience. It would be something different if they would be done shooting all seasons before the first episodes airs. Being a story in the making while being consumed poses challenges but as well offers opportunities. In tv show business they learn to be flexible in story telling because they have to be, there are budget changes, actor availability is in issue – they have to adapt. But even writers of books adapt their stories and characters, have not all set when they start writing, but different from a TV show we get to see only the end product. If you ask writers, you can often hear, that part of their stories, plots, details changes while writing, that characters maybe develop a kind of life on their own even.
I don’t see anything wrong if A&E take a chance to write Graham or Mad Hatter or Red or others in as long as they do good job with it. If they just hope to get the actors, then they’ll have to change eventually if not, or if they know they can get them at a certain time, then I don’t mind if they change a story detail to take advantage of that. These characters are part of the UOaT universe, they’re interesting characters, and yes, missed or loved by a number of fans. Call it fanservice maybe, but I very much believe them, that they are the biggest fans of these characters themselves. They want them to be in the plot if they can make it happen, not just for the fans, but because they like the characters.
Not saying , that A&E always do a good job in what they are writing or have written, nobody’s perfect, but besides whatever critical view I have on some things, so far I’ve perceived A&E as primarily story tellers and not that much marketing driven.
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So…. we can’t get Jamie back why?
EDIT – Oh, maybe I should have read this original article. The one that I read the other day just stated that it was due to his 50 Shades schedule.
Of course he’s coming back. If they have to show Regina’s love life, the Huntsman must appear again.
And of course, they have to explain how the Huntsman got rid of the darkness from his heart and found redemption.
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