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EW Spoiler Room 10/30 – Did Emma Crush a Heart?

Home › Forums › Once Upon a Time › Season Five › General S5 spoilers › EW Spoiler Room 10/30 – Did Emma Crush a Heart?

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  • October 30, 2015 at 11:40 pm #311376
    MatthewPaul
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    Even if logically speaking, Henry is the thing Emma loves most, there is one piece of possible evidence that makes me not completely rule out it being Hook’s heart: his name is on Excalibur, while Emma’s name remains on the dagger portion of it. This could be the result of the two now sharing a heart, if they were really able to pull a Snowing.

    However, I think it’s more likely that Emma somehow used either Merlin’s heart because she and Nimue are linked as Dark Ones, or she forces Guinevere to use Lancelot’s heart. Either way, there has to be a reason why both Merlin and Lancelot are currently nowhere to be seen in Storybrooke.

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    October 31, 2015 at 1:19 am #311379
    WickedRegal
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    However, I think it’s more likely that Emma somehow used either Merlin’s heart because she and Nimue are linked as Dark Ones, or she forces Guinevere to use Lancelot’s heart. Either way, there has to be a reason why both Merlin and Lancelot are currently nowhere to be seen in Storybrooke.

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    Emma forcing Guinevere to use Lancelot’s heart seems like a very strong possibility.

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    October 31, 2015 at 8:20 am #311383
    RumplesGirl
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    However, I think it’s more likely that Emma somehow used either Merlin’s heart because she and Nimue are linked as Dark Ones, or she forces Guinevere to use Lancelot’s heart. Either way, there has to be a reason why both Merlin and Lancelot are currently nowhere to be seen in Storybrooke.

    Yeah Gwen using Lance has been a standing theory of ours for awhile so I’m still betting on that one.

    With Hook’s name on the sword, I’m not sure why Emma would go through all this silliness with Rumple if she already knows that Hook’s half heart (her other half) is needed. It is something to consider, however, given that the dagger and the sword are two halves of one whole and that A and E enjoy parallels/metaphors

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    October 31, 2015 at 1:09 pm #311393
    MatthewPaul
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    With Hook’s name on the sword, I’m not sure why Emma would go through all this silliness with Rumple if she already knows that Hook’s half heart (her other half) is needed. It is something to consider, however, given that the dagger and the sword are two halves of one whole and that A and E enjoy parallels/metaphors

    Just realized there is something else that could suggest that another heart sharing scenario happens: the episode title “Broken Heart.” That title could be referring to a literal broken heart, and that happens to be the episode that was being filmed at the time we found out about Excalibur being fully formed.

    October 31, 2015 at 1:26 pm #311397
    Slurpeez
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    While I see the potential parallel being made, Emma said everyone except Henry had failed her. So maybe Henry is the only one who believed in her enough to see her plan through that he offered her his heart, believing she’d save him like Snow saved David. Emma using her son’s heart is still pretty dark though, so she’d be motivated to remove everyone’s memories of the event.

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    October 31, 2015 at 3:47 pm #311400
    Heart of Darkness
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    While I see the potential parallel being made, Emma said everyone except Henry had failed her. So maybe Henry is the only one who believed in her enough to see her plan through that he offered her his heart, believing she’d save him like Snow saved David. Emma using her son’s heart is still pretty dark though, so she’d be motivated to remove everyone’s memories of the event.

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    I wonder if sharing a heart with a Dark One would have any negative consequences…

    October 31, 2015 at 4:37 pm #311401
    MatthewPaul
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    I wonder if sharing a heart with a Dark One would have any negative consequences…

    My guess is they would both be the Dark One at the same time. After all, we saw that the Darkness that made Rumple the Dark One was attached to his heart. That’s another reason why I find Hook’s name being on Excalibur suspicious.

    October 31, 2015 at 5:08 pm #311403
    TheWatcher
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    While I see the potential parallel being made, Emma said everyone except Henry had failed her. So maybe Henry is the only one who believed in her enough to see her plan through that he offered her his heart, believing she’d save him like Snow saved David

    Emma didn’t seem to be particularly upset with Hook if memory serves correct. She did let him happily into her home and attempted taco making. Whatever happened in Camelot, it seems Hook and Henry are on still on Emma’s good side.

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    October 31, 2015 at 8:20 pm #311407
    RumplesGirl
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    RumplesGirl wrote:

    With Hook’s name on the sword, I’m not sure why Emma would go through all this silliness with Rumple if she already knows that Hook’s half heart (her other half) is needed. It is something to consider, however, given that the dagger and the sword are two halves of one whole and that A and E enjoy parallels/metaphors

    Just realized there is something else that could suggest that another heart sharing scenario happens: the episode title “Broken Heart.” That title could be referring to a literal broken heart, and that happens to be the episode that was being filmed at the time we found out about Excalibur being fully formed.

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    And that’s a Hook episode, yes?

     

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    October 31, 2015 at 8:59 pm #311408
    Gaultheria
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    How about if Emma crushed her own heart rather than harm anyone else? Sure, it has to be the heart of the person you love the most, but “Greater love has no one than this…” probably also works.

    Being sustained by the dark power — with no emotional centre to keep her human — could explain why she’s so cold and distant now.

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