EW Spoiler Room 5/17: Belle's Return

[RumplesGirl]

We’ve gotten scoop on almost all the returning cast for the Once Upon a Time finale except Emilie de Ravin. Anything you can say about Belle’s return? — Raven

This is a tough one to talk about, but I will drop this one tiny tease: She’s not appearing via flashback.

http://ew.com/tv/2018/05/17/spoiler-room-arrow-blacklist-once-upon-a-time/

[RumplesGirl]

LOL, really? Who in the world hasn’t figured out that Rumple dies and is reunited with Belle in the afterlife??

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[Gaultheria]

Well, it could be Wish Rumpel meeting Wish Belle. That would solve last episode’s cliffhanger with a happy solution instead of a fight.

Re: original Rumpel and Belle, I’m still hoping they don’t go the reunited in death route. Sure, Rumpel deserves to earn mortality — to shanshu — but there’s nothing romantic about a Lovers’ Leap. A chance to live an uncursed life is what sounds like a true happy ending.

(Yes, as some may have guessed, I knew someone who killed herself. I didn’t know her well, but it still shook me when I found out, and it devastated her family. That’s why I think that any fiction that romanticizes suicide and fatalism is — there’s no other word for it — obscene.)

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[MatthewPaul]

Well, it could be Wish Rumpel meeting Wish Belle. That would solve last episode’s cliffhanger with a happy solution instead of a fight.

Wish Belle died back in Season 6. We even saw a bag of her bones.

[Gaultheria]

Wish Belle died back in Season 6. We even saw a bag of her bones.

Ah, I forgot that part. As an exercise in soap opera logic, though, do we know that was her?

With one episode remaining — and especially when most of that episode will be sentimental tributes instead of new plot — I don’t think there’s time for a fight against Wish Rumpel.

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[RumplesGirl]

Ah, I forgot that part. As an exercise in soap opera logic, though, do we know that was her?

It’s always possible that they’ll pull a soap opera trick but as you pointed out, I don’t think they have time for any big twisty turns. I think the fight against Wish Rumple is going to be a lot more Regina trying to get through to Wish Henry, Henry having a change of heart, undoing what he wrote, and then some quick final stand against Wish Rumple.

As for Rumple’s impending death…I want to see how it plays out because I agree that him being mortal again only to kill himself is obscene(and I railed against the writers at the end of 4A when Ingrid essentially killed herself to be reunited with her sisters). I’ve heard a few things that suggest it goes in a different direction but…I wanna see how it plays out.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[hjbau]

I don’t think that Rumpel is going to kill himself. Though, i could see how him choosing to become mortal seems like that. It does seem like real Rumpel is going to stab fake Rumpel and that is how he is going to die, but maybe he does that because that is the only way to save everyone else. It does depend on how it all plays out and the dialogue surrounding it all.

[Gaultheria]

It’s the way Rumpel says it that triggers my danger-sense. He talks about getting rid of the dagger, and he talks about reuniting with Belle, and he talks about getting rid of the dagger so that he can reunite with Belle, but he never mentions anything about what he expects or hopes to happen in-between those events.

Unless we’re very young, we’ve all lost people we love. Those of us who believe in or hope for an afterlife can honestly say that we yearn to be reunited with our loved ones, and I don’t fault Rumpel one bit for thinking that. I’m angry at him — at his writers, I guess I should say — for running headlong toward his own death with blinders on, as fast as he can, setting his sights on dead Belle and ignoring everyone still alive. No-one else matters to him enough for him to even wonder if they matter to him.

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[ry4christ]

I’m wondering if we’ll see Rumple gain back his mortality and then sacrifice himself for someone else – perhaps giving up his heart can somehow cure Nook and Alice. But I agree having him straight up just kill himself to reunite with Belle would be all kinds of awful and the antithesis of “hope” that A & E champion as the show’s whole theme.

[bibliophile]

Maybe instead of dying immediately after becoming mortal they’ll just tag on a coda where Rumple lives out the rest of his life doing good deeds and bouncing great-grandkids on his knee until he dies naturally and is then reunited with Belle (and Bae!).

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