Eww CaptainSwan shippers

[c2clark]

I like him, whats not to like about a pirate? But I think thats why most people here dont like him. Sexual implications are part of being a pirate, look at Jack Sparrow (only pirate I can think of right off the bat) he is suave and debonair. He IS a villan though, and I highly doubt that will change. I still like him 🙂

[obisgirl]

Exactly. 😀

[playarita]

I had some thoughts but decided against it (it wouldn’t change anything, and only create more strife) but I am curious though regarding the negativity against Hook fans. Are they personally directed at the posters/actor (i.e. actually insulting etc), towards the fandom itself or Hook the character.

If anything is ever directed to you personally or the actor I would hope the post would be reported since it would definitely be breaking the terms of service.

Now if it is against the fandom itself then yes it would be a generalization but it would only be directed towards those with that behavior (and every fandom has those kinds of people). Understandably it can be annoying but if it does not break the terms of service it might simply take some effort to ignore it. I know it can be hard. (I definitely feel for that.)

Now if it is Hook himself then that is something that should be allowed no matter what. If it does not break the terms of service then have enough grace to accept it without the intimidation and defensiveness (which I have already seen in here).

Everyone is entitled to an opinion (especially if directed to plot or character). If ever any post breaks the terms of service then definitely report it or if you are not sure there is no harm in contacting a moderator and voicing a concern. That way people learn how to convey an opinion. 🙂

[c2clark]

@playarita wrote:

I had some thoughts but decided against it (it wouldn’t change anything, and only create more strife) but I am curious though regarding the negativity against Hook fans. Are they personally directed at the posters/actor (i.e. actually insulting etc), towards the fandom itself or Hook the character.

If anything is ever directed to you personally or the actor I would hope the post would be reported since it would definitely be breaking the terms of service.

Now if it is against the fandom itself then yes it would be a generalization but it would only be directed towards those with that behavior (and every fandom has those kinds of people). Understandably it can be annoying but if it does not break the terms of service it might simply take some effort to ignore it. I know it can be hard. (I definitely feel for that.)

Now if it is Hook himself then that is something that should be allowed no matter what. If it does not break the terms of service then have enough grace to accept it without the intimidation and defensiveness (which I have already seen in here).

Everyone is entitled to an opinion (especially if directed to plot or character). If ever any post breaks the terms of service then definitely report it or if you are not sure there is no harm in contacting a moderator and voicing a concern. That way people learn how to convey an opinion. 🙂

I dont think there is anything wrong with the people on here or their opinions, regardless of if its towards the actor or the acting. However, I do think that your comment was unnecessary.

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[Josephine]

I think the title of this thread was very immature and immediately confrontational, but I do think those that don’t like Hook have said their opinions in non-threatening, logical ways. It’s funny how he gets such strong reactions, and it’s not the villian thing because people adore Rumple and Regina. Hook’s character is just one of those you love or hate. I’ve stated my opinion of him elsewhere so I’m not going to go into it again.

I do wonder how Hook can stay long term in Storybrooke with Gold living there, also. This isn’t love or hate of the character, just supposition. Really, I want to hear from both sides…what’s your opinion.

Personally, I can’t see them being in the same town long term. This isn’t an attack on the actor, just plotwise, neither will leave the other alone until they have their revenge. This isn’t Rumple and Charming having a swordfight and then calling a truce. Those two you can see respect each other in a messed up, disfunctional way. There is no way Rumple and Gold can have a similar relationship. I think I’ve posted this somewhere, but it reminds me of the prophecy in Harry Potter between Harry and Voldemort, “neither can live while the other survives.”

The series revolves around Rumplestiltskin so I can’t see anything happening to him. Robert and Lana have massive fan bases and part of the main five adults and the series revolves around his character, so Rumple’s not going anywhere. That leaves only two options for long term: banishment or death. Death is obvious, but by banishment I mean he leaves Storybrooke for various reasons and is no longer in Rumples line of sight constantly.

So how could the two possibly exist long-term in the same town, because I just don’t see it.

Keeper of Rumplestiltskin's and Neal's spears and war paint and crystal ball.

[playarita]

@c2clark wrote:

I dont think there is anything wrong with the people on here or their opinions, regardless of if its towards the actor or the acting. However, I do think that your comment was unnecessary.

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Thank you for your comment. I suppose I don’t understand why it was unnecessary only in that I tried to be tactful in my opinion and offer what I feel is basic internet decorum and common sense.

Basically be smart if your opinion or post breaks the terms of service or TOS–forum rules then no matter the stance is should be reported. I broke it down from the different instances that one could encounter. (: If that was misunderstood you have my apologies.

I am certainly trying on my end to give everyone the benefit of the doubt, be respectful, and keep posts as civil as possible. I definitely admit it is very hard. 😆

[Phee]

@playarita wrote:

Now if it is Hook himself then that is something that should be allowed no matter what. If it does not break the terms of service then have enough grace to accept it without the intimidation and defensiveness (which I have already seen in here).

I think that people feel so passionately about this character that sometimes the line gets blurred, and if people don’t like Hook and state that in an emphatic way, his fans feel it as an attack, and as though they need to defend him, and themselves for loving him.

@Josephine wrote:

So how could the two possibly exist long-term in the same town, because I just don’t see it.

What you say about their neverending grudge preventing them from coexisting is a fair enough point. I think it’d be too simplistic and boring of a storyline for them to just kill Hook off and eliminate the problem though, (because yeah, if one of them has to die, they won’t be getting rid of Rumple).

I think it’d make for far more interesting storytelling if they develop each character in his own right, having them mature and deal with their issues. I’m not necessarily talking about full on redemption for either of them, I’m just saying that it’d be interesting to see them learn from their mistakes. I think that could lead to a situation where each of them is mature enough to set aside the blind rage. They’ll never be BFFs, but if each of them is developed to a point where he can accept his own faults and responsibilities in this situation, then I can see that eventually they could tolerate each other’s existence.

One of the things this show is big on is showing that even the baddest of the baddies weren’t born that way, something happened to corrupt them, and now they’re being given chances to make amends. The show reflects real life in that way. None of us are perfect, we all make mistakes, and when we’re given the opportunity to make up for it, it’s a struggle to make the correct choices. So I think that keeping Hook as a bad guy and just killing him off because he’s an inconvenience to Rumple would be far too simplistic, wouldn’t challenge the writers at all, and would be a contradiction to the moral of the show.

[sarah_tn]

@Phee wrote:

@playarita wrote:

Now if it is Hook himself then that is something that should be allowed no matter what. If it does not break the terms of service then have enough grace to accept it without the intimidation and defensiveness (which I have already seen in here).

I think that people feel so passionately about this character that sometimes the line gets blurred, and if people don’t like Hook and state that in an emphatic way, his fans feel it as an attack, and as though they need to defend him, and themselves for loving him.

@Josephine wrote:

So how could the two possibly exist long-term in the same town, because I just don’t see it.

What you say about their neverending grudge preventing them from coexisting is a fair enough point. I think it’d be too simplistic and boring of a storyline for them to just kill Hook off and eliminate the problem though, (because yeah, if one of them has to die, they won’t be getting rid of Rumple).

I think it’d make for far more interesting storytelling if they develop each character in his own right, having them mature and deal with their issues. I’m not necessarily talking about full on redemption for either of them, I’m just saying that it’d be interesting to see them learn from their mistakes. I think that could lead to a situation where each of them is mature enough to set aside the blind rage. They’ll never be BFFs, but if each of them is developed to a point where he can accept his own faults and responsibilities in this situation, then I can see that eventually they could tolerate each other’s existence.

One of the things this show is big on is showing that even the baddest of the baddies weren’t born that way, something happened to corrupt them, and now they’re being given chances to make amends. The show reflects real life in that way. None of us are perfect, we all make mistakes, and when we’re given the opportunity to make up for it, it’s a struggle to make the correct choices. So I think that keeping Hook as a bad guy and just killing him off because he’s an inconvenience to Rumple would be far too simplistic, wouldn’t challenge the writers at all, and would be a contradiction to the moral of the show.

Phee, I am having trouble with the quotes here, so I’m just going to do this the best way I can.

Phee: I think that people feel so passionately about this character that sometimes the line gets blurred, and if people don’t like Hook and state that in an emphatic way, his fans feel it as an attack, and as though they need to defend him, and themselves for loving him.

Sarah: I agree with this. I am one of those out there who will admit to feeling that way.

Phee: What you say about their neverending grudge preventing them from coexisting is a fair enough point. I think it’d be too simplistic and boring of a storyline for them to just kill Hook off and eliminate the problem though, (because yeah, if one of them has to die, they won’t be getting rid of Rumple).

Sarah: Exactly. Besides, of that’s all there were to the story, there wouldn’t be much depth and I think it would disappoint everyone. They chose a perfect actor to play Captain Hook. The story line they started him off with (Milah) is deep, and amazing. The detail they’ve put into his character has already been established, and Hook fan or not, I think everyone would be disappointed if the result of their work doesn’t live up to what they’ve got. To put it in terms of an analogy, it’d be like inviting the public to a big fireworks show with store-bought bottle rockets.

Phee: I think it’d make for far more interesting storytelling if they develop each character in his own right, having them mature and deal with their issues. I’m not necessarily talking about full on redemption for either of them, I’m just saying that it’d be interesting to see them learn from their mistakes. I think that could lead to a situation where each of them is mature enough to set aside the blind rage. They’ll never be BFFs, but if each of them is developed to a point where he can accept his own faults and responsibilities in this situation, then I can see that eventually they could tolerate each other’s existence.

Sarah: That’s what I hope to see.

Phee: One of the things this show is big on is showing that even the baddest of the baddies weren’t born that way, something happened to corrupt them, and now they’re being given chances to make amends. The show reflects real life in that way. None of us are perfect, we all make mistakes, and when we’re given the opportunity to make up for it, it’s a struggle to make the correct choices. So I think that keeping Hook as a bad guy and just killing him off because he’s an inconvenience to Rumple would be far too simplistic, wouldn’t challenge the writers at all, and would be a contradiction to the moral of the show.

Sarah: This is one of the reasons I love this show. The writers are doing a great job. They add a human quality to the stories we read as kids. For philosophical people like me, this gives a lot to mull over, and chat about at the “water cooler” the next morning after the show.

[mich7]

@Phee wrote:

I think that people feel so passionately about this character that sometimes the line gets blurred, and if people don’t like Hook and state that in an emphatic way, his fans feel it as an attack, and as though they need to defend him, and themselves for loving him.

I think most of the fans do this with whatever character they love…I defend Rumple, Regina, and Neal when I feel they are attacked as well.

[craxyfox]

Even though I am meant to be on holidays right now I am coming in to defend my ship! 😆 😆
Everyone is entitled to share their opinions, I just think that the title did come off as a little bit offensive, as it isn’t insulting Hook himself but it’s actually directed at CS fans :

I don’t blame people for defending their favourite characters in debates and stuff, but actually saying ‘eww’ @ other fans is pushing it a little

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