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Excalibur and the dagger are the same thing! Were you surprised? What do you think of this revelation? How did the dagger break off? Can it be rejoined (and should it?)
[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"I was very surprised and really astonished to learn the Excalibur and Dagger were the same thing, one of the surprises that reminded me of the magic OUAT could bring, and now I think it’s going to take bringing the two swords together to defeat Emma.
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
This is end of series stuff. You can’t tell me otherwise. This is the last season. The dagger returned to it’s rightful place and balance is back in the world.
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So when I saw the premiere a few days ago, I actually gasped out loud at this reveal. I rather LOVE it. I think that’s a very interesting narrative point and sets up a thesis for the show as a whole. The sword is supposed to be a weapon of good, only working in the hands of a divinely appointed Messiah King. The fact that the missing bit of it is a weapon of evil and corruption speaks to the fact that there is very little that separates lights and dark and how in order to be complete you need both. I wonder if Merlin forged the blade and it broke into the dagger when he tethered the Darkness to a human.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"I love it too. I think it’s one of the best twists (and made me gasp too) they’ve done so far. Looking forward to finding out more about what it means.
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So when I saw the premiere a few days ago, I actually gasped out loud at this reveal. I rather LOVE it. I think that’s a very interesting narrative point and sets up a thesis for the show as a whole. The sword is supposed to be a weapon of good, only working in the hands of a divinely appointed Messiah King. The fact that the missing bit of it is a weapon of evil and corruption speaks to the fact that there is very little that separates lights and dark and how in order to be complete you need both. I wonder if Merlin forged the blade and it broke into the dagger when he tethered the Darkness to a human.
Along a similar line, I was thinking that it might have been something like the sword being too powerful a tool for light and unbalancing everything. Is anyone else getting the feeling that the final message of the series could be that both light and darkness must exist in balance for the world to continue and that is why the most powerful weapons of both sides is in fact part of the same whole? I don’t think that any of our characters are purely either good or evil at this point (although I could concede on Cruella) but are all trying to balance both sides of themselves.
“The truth isn't easily pinned to a page. In the bathtub of history the truth is harder to hold than the soap and much more difficult to find.” - Terry Pratchett
Cruella was fascinating in that for once they actually did present a true sociopath on the show. I’m not convinced that means “pure evil”–Isaac says at her funeral that she was good to him in her way, which I think meant that she was able to pull him out of his shell for a bit. But while we’ve seen most of our major villains go through traumas and experiences that explain their evil choices, Cruella started out with no empathy, a desire to watch people die, and an ability to charm and manipulate people–all the definition of sociopathic. Makes it easier to distinguish from, say, Rumple’s behavior which sometimes looks similar (because he has always been ends justify means, but he definitely also harbors love, a desire to accomplish good things as he sees them, and even sympathy for some of his victims).
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What a missed opportunity! I thought the markings on Excalibur looked like those on the dagger; it would have been fun to wonder about it for a week or two. Fandom runs on speculation like that.
Hmmm… I wonder if whoever holds Excalibur can control the Dark One.
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*copying a pasting something I posted about a week ago*
If they’re giving Excalibur its own promo pic with a tagline like, “Mightiest of all Swords”, it will surely be related to the Dagger. Like, Merlin lopped Excalibur’s end off to make the Dagger from the special metal.
Then he was all, “Bugger, they’ll be able to tell I’ve messed around with it and it’s shorter now. I know, I’ll shove it in this rock and it can stay there for a couple centuries until there’s no one left alive who knows what it’s meant to look like, so no one will know the difference when it pops up again.” Or something.
(I’d actually only been joking about the sticking it in a rock so no one could see the busted end of it thing…but whaddya know.)
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