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July 10, 2012 at 8:22 am #150372miaParticipant
Thanks for your eagerness of improvement! And for changing back the colour! 😀
Do you mean the font of the posts or the headers and names? I’m not the biggest fan of Arial (neither of Helvetica), but it’s ok to read on a screen. What font is it that you used for the podcast logo (except the ONCE, that should be the Futura light), if I may ask?
[adrotate group="5"]July 10, 2012 at 1:15 pm #150466Daniel J. LewisKeymaster@mia wrote:
Do you mean the font of the posts or the headers and names? I’m not the biggest fan of Arial (neither of Helvetica), but it’s ok to read on a screen. What font is it that you used for the podcast logo (except the ONCE, that should be the Futura light), if I may ask?
All of the web say Once Upon a Time is Futura, but it most certainly is not! Compare the C’s. The official OUaT logo has angled “cuts” at the end of the C, but Futura is a straight vertical cut. The Futura N and E are also too wide compared to the OUaT logo.
I originally hunted and tested for hours before I found BonvenoCF for the ONCE podcast logo, which is the closest to the OUaT font as I could get. But that font is disgusting in lowercase, so I am actually using Futura on the website now. Before, I was using Josefin from Google Webfonts.
I apply the web font to only larger headlines.
July 10, 2012 at 1:45 pm #150471Daniel J. LewisKeymasterI made a handy image so you can see the comparisons.
[attachment=0:19qzchaj]ONCE font comparisons.jpg[/attachment:19qzchaj]
July 10, 2012 at 2:46 pm #150475miaParticipantAh, you’re right! Overlooked the C. Wow, the E from the Boveno is horrible! 😆 Didn’t realise before. Thanks for putting that comparison together, though you didn’t have to. I could just have looked it up.
So, where you looking for another font for the logo or the running text?
July 10, 2012 at 3:14 pm #150480Daniel J. LewisKeymasterPlease forgive me if you already know this, but I’ll go ahead and explain.
Fonts on the web are a bit different than fonts in print. In order to use a nonstandard font on a website, I have to convert it to multiple formats to support the multiple browsers who refuse to adhere to modern web standards (this time, Internet Explorer isn’t the only guilty one).
These converted fonts look great on most computers, but the more I use, the slower a website loads and the great the chances that the “not-most” computers will render the website unreadable.
Thus, I use special fonts for only larger text, like the larger headlines.
Since launching ONCE podcast, I had chosen BonvenoCF for the logo font and I’m not changing that. But I couldn’t get BonvenoCF as a webfont. So I found something similar in Josefin Sans from Google Webfonts. But this was too thin and I didn’t like its lowercase letters.
So when I got TypeKit (another webfont service) included with some other software I license from Adobe, I searched and discovered BonvenoCF webfont in their system. I tried it and it was disgusting for lowercase letters. Then I went to old faithful Futura, which displays nicely and still looks close enough to our ONCE font. Except now that I’ve revealed some of the differences, you’ll notice them more. 😛
So I’m not looking for replacement fonts, just wanting to optimize a few things to make ONCEpodcast.com more usable.
(I do have a concern over whether I’ll hit a limit with TypeKit’s service since our website gets pounded during the TV season.)
July 10, 2012 at 4:16 pm #150524miaParticipantAh, ok. Yeah, I knew there were differences, but the technology behind it, not. Thanks for explaining! 🙂
Oh, and don’t worry. I would probably have noticed it eventually. That’s the problem when you study something where you have to know about typography. You end up not being able to read anything without examining it … I’m not even able to walk around town, without agonizing over the shops signs, lol.July 10, 2012 at 4:29 pm #150529Daniel J. LewisKeymasterHa ha! Have you ever played a font game? Picking out Helvetica from Arial is always fun. 🙂
July 11, 2012 at 5:04 pm #150990miaParticipantYes! I got it on my iPhone. I’m still working on finding the differences if there’s no a, r, e or t to help me. 😉
Last semester we paid homage to Helvetica and 60 years of BRD (German abbreviation for Federal Republic of Germany). The banners are hanging at my uni. I’ll take a shot and post it. They’re quite good. -
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