Fairies: Do they pay a price for magic?

[obisgirl]

obisgirl wrote:

Maybe, but I think the anti-love rule probably goes back further than Rumple’s Dark One curse. I mean, the Blue Fairy is the oldest magic in the land (I think it was said that she was the original magic back in season 1), then she made the rule for a reason. As much as I don’t trust the Blue Fairy, I’d still like to see her backstory one day — which would probably be an “origin of it all” episode, maybe even the creation of fairytale land.

I agree with you, actually.

🙂

Let’s say Blue had a TL but that TL was dying. So she created a spell that would heal him but, as magic does, it had unintended consequences, namely it turned her TL into the First Dark One and also ageless. In order to rid the land of this new evil, she created “the Dark One’s knife” and put it in the hands of someone she thought she could trust, but there are more unintended consequences and so on and so forth.

That is the best theory I’ve seen relating to the curse of the Dark One and the Blue Fairy. It sounds so epic too.

[Josephine]

 

I like that theory, that Blue mistakenly created the Dark One curse in some kind of misguided attempt.  It reminds me of the concept of yin and yang.  For every dark there is a light, two sides to every coin, etc.  I wonder if her messing with the balance of nature ripped apart something and created something unnatural in the magical realm.  Sort of how it wasn’t good that Victor worked to bring back his brother and fight the laws of life and death.  The result wasn’t pretty.  Or it’s just that the Dark One’s powers slipped into the Enchanted Forest and really don’t belong there.  Like Superman was just a normal person on Krypton and a “superman” with great powers on Earth.

We’ve also got to look at sources of magic. Right now we know a few sources. There may be more, if there is add it down:

• Fairy magic – wands and fairy dust mined by the dwarves needed (I’m going back to Screwball Ninja’s essay about Blue. So funny.)
• True love – the most powerful magic of all; strong enough to break any curse; yada, yada, yada…
• Natural abilities – Eddy and Adam said some people are born with the spark of magic and they’re the ones who can learn it (e.g. Cora, Regina, Emma). In some cases the source is True Love, others we just don’t know. But they can proudly sing “Baby, I was born this way”
• Curses – we have no proof that Rumple was born with that spark of magic, we have no proof against it, but we do know the magic came with the Dark One curse.

So does the price of magic only result if your magic is a certain type, or is it your intent.  Karma, or whatever your culture names it.  In Physics, it’s a one of the basic laws of nature:  For every action there is an opposite and equal reaction.   You put bad magic out there, it’s going to come back in the same way it was put out.    I also remember years ago in Economics something called “opportunity costs”  that there is always a cost or price to be paid for the decisions you make.  If you chose to this, then the price is you giving up doing that.  In my case, the choice to post on Oncepodcast forum results in the cost of my living room looking like I should be on an episode of Hoarders 😛

I do wonder then about the Blue Fairy.  Many of us are convinced she’s Sneaky Fairy and not to be trusted.  It will be the series finale before you can convince me she never had an ulterior motive and even then I’d probably still be suspicious.  So if she’s being sneaky and manipulating things, even if it is for the “greater good” will it come back to haunt her.  Do the ends justify the means?  And if it does, then what about Rumple?  He went through all this for a noble cause of finding his lost son.  Does his ends justify his means?  And if not why do they in the Blue Fairy’s case?

At the end of the day, if the Blue Fairy is the ultimate puppetmaster, I want to see what the ultimate cost she will pay.  I really have issues with that fairy.

Keeper of Rumplestiltskin's and Neal's spears and war paint and crystal ball.

[kfchimera]

Just to play (Blue) Devil’s advocate, how do we know Dreamy and Nova were /are true love? BF said it was just a dream, and we saw how magical dust from Nova hit his egg, causing him to be hatched early and to kind of, like birds do, be imprinted on her.  He saw her face in a dream in the egg.  They did not spend a lot of time together before wanting to run away together.  Meanwhile, for Snowing and Rumbelle, it seems like the true love bond formed slowly over challenges that tested their love and understanding of each other.  BF saying break up for the greater good was the first test, and far as we saw, Dreamy gave up and resigned himself to being Grumpy and Nova to carrying on.  They meet again by accident, and it is left open except for the short in GMSB that is a unofficial comic con/dvd extra  clip.

I hope there is more (we did see Grumpy in King George’s jail for stealing a diamond to propose).  I don’t think their story is over, but if true love is not instant, then maybe at the time, BF was not standing in the way of it at all.  She was a part of the forging process, like a steel sword that gets tempered to be stronger.  They are minor characters so we might not see how they reconciled and worked through the whole dwarf/fairy destiny thing, but we all sort of assume they could /did and that BF was up to no good to ever give Dreamy a choice (because she doesn’t force him at all, though it is a big guilt trip that clearly hints what she thinks would be the “right” thing to do).

I do love the idea though that BF was motivated by her (or Tink’s) tragic love story, and that it ties in to how the Dark One (or Neverland/PP) came to be.

“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass

[obisgirl]

I like that theory, that Blue mistakenly created the Dark One curse in some kind of misguided attempt. It reminds me of the concept of yin and yang. For every dark there is a light, two sides to every coin, etc. I wonder if her messing with the balance of nature ripped apart something and created something unnatural in the magical realm. Sort of how it wasn’t good that Victor worked to bring back his brother and fight the laws of life and death. The result wasn’t pretty. Or it’s just that the Dark One’s powers slipped into the Enchanted Forest and really don’t belong there.

OMG, this is awesome on so many levels 🙂

Just to play (Blue) Devil’s advocate, how do we know Dreamy and Nova were /are true love? BF said it was just a dream, and we saw how magical dust from Nova hit his egg, causing him to be hatched early and to kind of, like birds do, be imprinted on her. He saw her face in a dream in the egg.  They did not spend a lot of time together before wanting to run away together.  

I think they were and as you pointed out, Dreamy was already bonded to Nova because of the fairy dust falling on his egg.

[RumplesGirl]

Is there anyway to know for certain if you’re TL besides TLK? I would agree that the fairy dust/Dreamy dreaming of Nova before hatching is a pretty clear indication that they were connected.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[PriceofMagic]

Charming felt when Snow bit into the poisoned apple and became cursed.

All magic comes with a price!

Keeper of Felix

[chianna]

I like the yin yang theory of magic especially as it means that in each good piece of magic there’s a speck of darkness and vice versa,  a smart magic user could exploit that. Which could also be how a genie’s magic twists even the most well intentioned wish into something bad.

[obisgirl]

there will be always be light and the dark. you can’t have one without the other, otherwise it would be unbalanced.  (not to mention, boring).

[Lauren]

i have a theory don’t no if anyone suggested it already so sorry if i’m rehashing an old one…but what if the blue fairy cast the dark curse on the man she loved because he chose to be with someone else and she put in that only true love shall break the curse because she didn’t think true love would actually break it.. and when the woman he left her for kissed him and he was still cursed it was like an extra victory for blue… but now with gold who has belle their is actually a chance for the dark curse to be lifted.. i can see blue doing something to jeopardize that.. like she believes where there is light magic their has to be dark to create a balance?

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