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April 8, 2015 at 8:10 pm #301076obisgirlParticipant
So the obvious question, and unless the Sorcerer’s planning to run for office and needs a track record of creating jobs, is why did he feel the need for an Author (but only if it’s an archivist, with not too much creative license). And if the Sorcerer is also a “job” held by many people, do we know if it’s this Sorcerer, whoever he/she is, that created the job of Author? Or his antecedent?
I think the bigger question is why the Author was needed? I feel it the answer is bigger than, ‘oh for posterity sake.’ There’s also the history repeating itself, which we’ve seen with Rumple’s story through the seasons. I think the role of the author was to educate. That’s why it’s record, not change stuff.
[adrotate group="5"]April 8, 2015 at 9:45 pm #301080SlurpeezParticipantSo is the Quill just an object that only gains power when the Author has it, or does the Quill have some sort of understanding about its proper owner.
Yes. The Quill is seeking out Henry, the next Author.
One last strange thing. While he was sending Mal’s baby through the green vortex of doom, the Apprentice kept repeating (twice, I think, but maybe more) that he’s sending her “where she (it? the baby) belongs.” Which seems like a harsh statement considering he just said she’s a blank slate (now presumably with Emma’s potential for darkness). But what if we took it as a statement of fate. As in, she literally belongs there, because she’s supposed to cause a chain of events to occur.
The Apprentice saying “she is where she belongs” (about Lily) really made me think of the Blue Fairy saying the Dark One curse “doesn’t belong here” (i.e. in the Enchanted Forest). Hence, shady Apprentice/Sorcerer and Shady Blue Fairy.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
April 8, 2015 at 9:56 pm #301081RumplesGirlKeymasterSo is the Quill just an object that only gains power when the Author has it, or does the Quill have some sort of understanding about its proper owner.
Yes. The Quill is seeking out Henry, the next Author.
That’s more or less my feeling as well. Which means the Author isn’t exactly evil, just corrupted by object he was never meant to wield. He’s been Gollum’d.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"April 8, 2015 at 10:40 pm #301083nevermoreParticipantThe Apprentice saying “she is where she belongs” (about Lily) really made me think of the Blue Fairy saying the Dark One curse “doesn’t belong here” (i.e. in the Enchanted Forest). Hence, shady Apprentice/Sorcerer and Shady Blue Fairy.
Yes! And also makes one wonder, where does the DO curse belong? And where/how did it get to EF in the first place? Was it that someone thought it’d make for a better story? (And I agree, I find Blue pretty suspicious too).
That’s more or less my feeling as well. Which means the Author isn’t exactly evil, just corrupted by object he was never meant to wield. He’s been Gollum’d.
lol! Speaking of preciouses, I don’t know what about this dialogue keeps bothering me, so I’ll just paste it here:
Apprentice: How dare you? How dare you force me to do that to that child?
Author: It makes for a better story.
Return the quill.
You are ill-suited for this job.
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You have forsaken your holy duty, and now You must be punished.
Do you think he actually gave the Quill back? Can the AppSourcerer make him return it, I wonder? Or maybe if he really does have an accomplice inside SB, perhaps that’s who’s hanging on to the Quill and this is where the Author was running off to so promptly. He seemed awfully sure of where he was going (although it might have been just away from Emma)
April 10, 2015 at 12:34 pm #301146obisgirlParticipantI’m not really sure where this goes considering there’s like three different threads relating to the Author, but I stumbled across these questions on Once Upon a Time Fan podcast.
What would happen if the author didn’t manipulate the story?
Would Rumpel still have spoken with the seer?
What if Cora didn’t kill Daniel, Regina never learned magic, Zelena was never abandoned or Pan never left his son?
Did the author take away their chance for a happy ending by creating a better story or did he only provide reasons for what they inevitably would become?
Ultimately, we are who we are because of decisions we’ve made but what happens when you have been manipulated into those decisions?
Can you fault someone that has been lead and influenced to be a villain?
If the lives between a hero and villain were switched, would the outcome be the same? Are we all one decision away from becoming a villain and could a second chance alter the course of history for the better?
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