FAVORITE AND LEAST FAVORITE MOMENTS from 4 X 07 SNOW QUEEN

[PriceofMagic]

Whether or not what Robin is doing is considered adultery depending on his marital status, at the end of the day Robin is still cheating on Marian. Is a man cheating on his girlfriend any less worse just because she’s not his wife? Robin CHOSE to re-enter back into a relationship with Marian, just because it hasn’t worked out for him in regards to Marian being frozen doesn’t mean he can just go crawling back to Regina with a “screw Marian” attitude. If Marian becomes unfrozen, is Robin going to go back to her again because he considers he has a code he has to honour? It’s not fair to Regina to just be dropped and picked back up by Robin every time he feels like it.

[WickedRegal]

So glad to see that I’m not the only one who loved the fact Robin followed his heart, and chose Regina. 🙂

Over 52 percent say that was their favorite scene!!!! 🙂

http://www.spoilertv.com/2014/11/poll-favorite-scene-from-once-upon-time_11.html

"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor

[Phee]

Whether or not what Robin is doing is considered adultery depending on his marital status, at the end of the day Robin is still cheating on Marian. Is a man cheating on his girlfriend any less worse just because she’s not his wife?

THIS! Frankly, it doesn’t really matter IMO if they are or aren’t married, (though Marian has been referred to as his wife constantly, so it’s safe to say they’re married). If two people are in a relationship that’s understood to be exclusive and monogamous, and then one of them goes hooking up with someone else while the other one isn’t aware, that’s cheating and it’s wrong.

It’s not fair to Regina to just be dropped and picked back up by Robin every time he feels like it.

It’s also not fair on Regina for Robin to be all, “screw my code, being good doesn’t matter, I’m just gonna do what I wanna do, consequences be damned.” Isn’t that the negative impulse that Regina’s been fighting against to try and make herself a better person? Isn’t that the struggle she’s had, seeing that doing the right thing gets you nowhere so may as well just fall back into bad habits? Isn’t that a thing she was REALLY trying to overcome in this particular situation when she insisted that she and Robin couldn’t be together because Marian’s life needed to be saved? Hadn’t she started to make some actual progress as a person so that even some non-Regina fans were starting to give her props for how she behaving in this situation? And then Robin came storming in and undid that and dragged her back down to doing the wrong thing despite her best efforts to the contrary.

[Sci-Fi Girl]

I have figured out how Regina could save Marion, with some very simple magic.

Here is what she could do, if she is prepared be completely selfless.  And I mean completely, as this would be a huge step.

I thought of it when she told Robin to “forget about me”, in order to love Marion again.  I know it was a huge step for her to even consider such a thing, much less say it to Robin.  But if Regina could really, truly, let go, she could offer Robin a memory potion, to literally forget her.  Then he would love Marion, and TLK would work.

Of course, that is the last thing she would really want to do, it would be a nearly impossible decision even for most people.  And Robin is certainly not making it easy.  (Not to mention, he would most likely refuse any such offer.)

But it is, at least, an option.  🙁

SFG

edit: BTW, this is not really what I want to happen, It’s just a possibility that I have not seen considered.

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[ready_to_rumbelle]

So glad to see that I’m not the only one who loved the fact Robin followed his heart, and chose Regina. Over 52 percent say that was their favorite scene!!!!  

I think you know deep down that for one, following your heart does not equal doing the right thing and secondly, that just because a majority thinks something is alright does not necessarily mean that it is. I am very well aware that we shouldn’t measure OUAT to real life standards but cheating on your dying wife should never be considered the right thing. And tbh, I thought you were most of all an Evil Regal, which makes me wonder why you are not upset with Robin for not respecting Regina’s choice to stay away from each him. After all, she is desperately trying to do her best to save Marian and to respect their vows (and maybe also to be a good example for her son).

[WickedRegal]

WickedRegal wrote:

So glad to see that I’m not the only one who loved the fact Robin followed his heart, and chose Regina. Over 52 percent say that was their favorite scene!!!!

I think you know deep down that for one, following your heart does not equal doing the right thing and secondly, that just because a majority thinks something is alright does not necessarily mean that it is. I am very well aware that we shouldn’t measure OUAT to real life standards but cheating on your dying wife should never be considered the right thing. And tbh, I thought you were most of all an Evil Regal, which makes me wonder why you are not upset with Robin for not respecting Regina’s choice to stay away from each him. After all, she is desperately trying to do her best to save Marian and to respect their vows (and maybe also to be a good example for her son).

Oh believe me RTR…but I tend to look at it through both point of view and get my conclusion. Robin Hood, he screwed in the first place not being up and honest about his feelings to both Regina and Marian, because he was about to willingly let himself be trapped in a one sided marriage which would’ve been very unfair to Marian in the process. That would not have been cool to lead on your “Ex-Dead” Wife into thinking the marriage is sunshine and daisies when you’re daydreaming about another woman. So following his heart was really the best thing Robin has done in a while, and to be honest…I don’t know if Robin and Marian are even considered married in this realm, who is even really married in this world besides Snowing(who the second curse no doubt married).

The reason I can’t be upset with Robin not staying away from Regina was because it was totally predictable he’d go right back to her. The theme of 4A is “Never Giving Up On The Ones You Love”, so it just goes with the theme….I was already expecting it.

Marian, I think on a level I feel sympathy for her, but Robin Hood’s just not her soul mate. I mean, there’s a true love out there for her somewhere, and it’d be quite nice to see Regina actually find one for her. But Robin was actually taken 40+ years ago when it was prophesied he was Regina’s soul mate. Who knows…Regina may just write Marian a happy ending as well. And Roland and Henry are both down for OutlawQueen.

Though truth be told…this is Robin’s FINAL shot with me….if he screws this up, I’m gonna blast a cannon through my own ship! 🙂

"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor

[Slurpeez]

Of course, that is the last thing she would really want to do, it would be a nearly impossible decision even for most people.  And Robin is certainly not making it easy.  (Not to mention, he would most likely refuse any such offer.)

But it is, at least, an option. 

SFG

edit: BTW, this is not really what I want to happen, It’s just a possibility that I have not seen considered.

I think that is a likely possibility at this stage. I think somehow Marian will be unfrozen, so that could be how if Robin takes a forgetting potion in order to save her. It would be a huge sacrifice for both him and for Regina to make, but I think she’d make it seeing how far she has come on the road to being a hero now. And as Henry has said, “Heroes have to make sacrifices all the time.” I also think in the end, Robin’s sense of honor and heroism will convince him to save his wife.

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

[ready_to_rumbelle]

ready_to_rumbelle wrote:

WickedRegal wrote:

So glad to see that I’m not the only one who loved the fact Robin followed his heart, and chose Regina. Over 52 percent say that was their favorite scene!!!!

I think you know deep down that for one, following your heart does not equal doing the right thing and secondly, that just because a majority thinks something is alright does not necessarily mean that it is. I am very well aware that we shouldn’t measure OUAT to real life standards but cheating on your dying wife should never be considered the right thing. And tbh, I thought you were most of all an Evil Regal, which makes me wonder why you are not upset with Robin for not respecting Regina’s choice to stay away from each him. After all, she is desperately trying to do her best to save Marian and to respect their vows (and maybe also to be a good example for her son).

Oh believe me RTR…but I tend to look at it through both point of view and get my conclusion. Robin Hood, he screwed in the first place not being up and honest about his feelings to both Regina and Marian, because he was about to willingly let himself be trapped in a one sided marriage which would’ve been very unfair to Marian in the process. That would not have been cool to lead on your “Ex-Dead” Wife into thinking the marriage is sunshine and daisies when you’re daydreaming about another woman. So following his heart was really the best thing Robin has done in a while, and to be honest…I don’t know if Robin and Marian are even considered married in this realm, who is even really married in this world besides Snowing(who the second curse no doubt married). The reason I can’t be upset with Robin not staying away from Regina was because it was totally predictable he’d go right back to her. The theme of 4A is “Never Giving Up On The Ones You Love”, so it just goes with the theme….I was already expecting it. Marian, I think on a level I feel sympathy for her, but Robin Hood’s just not her soul mate. I mean, there’s a true love out there for her somewhere, and it’d be quite nice to see Regina actually find one for her. But Robin was actually taken 40+ years ago when it was prophesied he was Regina’s soul mate. Who knows…Regina may just write Marian a happy ending as well. And Roland and Henry are both down for OutlawQueen. Though truth be told…this is Robin’s FINAL shot with me….if he screws this up, I’m gonna blast a cannon through my own ship!

I totally agree with you that just to stay with her because of his code of honor and therefore leading Marian on would be uncool as well and of course this is a terrible situation for him but not acting on desire and urges but having self-restraint is one of the few things that separates us from animals.

Henry and Roland may like their stepparent and wouldn’t mind for them to be with their parent, but again, I can only repeat my statement from above, as a parent you have to try to be a role model for your children at least to a certain degree. Sure, no one’s perfect but to act against better judgment while their kids have front-row seats in their relationship drama just feels wrong.

As to the not being married in this realm: Wouldn’t you consider Snow and Charming, Ella and Thomas, Aurora and Philipp to be married in Storybrooke? Now be careful what you are saying because that would mean that Rumbelle aren’t married in the EF and that is not the correct answer to a Rumbeller 😛

[Keb]

Well, they’ve never been in the EF while married…but marriage (like true love) is something I believe crosses realms. Regina set up a false marriage between David & Kathryn when David unexpectedly woke up, intentionally to put a barrier between David and Mary Margaret. It was based on memories that she manipulated with magic of things that had never happened and choices that David and Kathryn never made. (And in fact choices that we saw both of them reject–despite having the “opportunity”–in the EF while helping the other to be with their true loves.)

That makes it very different from Robin’s situation. He DID wed Marian, and she him. Likewise Snowing, Thomas & Ella (who may have married in both realms for all we know), Rumbelle, presumably Philora….etc. Of those, I think only Rumbelle never were married in the EF at all (though we don’t know how it went down with Philora, but it’s a reasonable assumption they’re married in some fashion), or before the most recent curse stuff went down.

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[PriceofMagic]

I think a couple is considered married across the lands once they are married and if they still have their original personalities. The cursed personalities were in themselves real people so what they did doesn’t really have any effect on the original personalities.

For example, David Nolan committed adultery with Mary-Margaret since he was married to Kathryn. However Charming has never committed adultery on Snow and vice versa.

So RumBelle married in Storybrooke as their original personalities, if they then went to the EF I would still consider them married.

Cinderella and Thomas married in the EF, I consider them married in Storybrooke since they now have their original personalities back.

Robin is an interesting case because Marian died.He married her in the EF. However, now that she is back and they both have their original personalities, I consider them married in Storybrooke.

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