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FAVORITE AND LEAST FAVORITE MOMENTS from … 4 X 17 HEART OF GOLD

Home › Forums › Once Upon a Time › Season Four › 4×17 “Heart of Gold” › FAVORITE AND LEAST FAVORITE MOMENTS from … 4 X 17 HEART OF GOLD

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  • April 13, 2015 at 4:31 pm #301465
    Reginastwin3
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    onceaholic wrote:

    ….was the only plot hole (the other episodes had numerous)

    you think the clover was the only plot hole? How about: –why does Rumple need Robin to go to Oz in the first place? –How did Will get to Oz –How did Will get out of Oz –How did that door get to Oz since it clearly poofed out of mid air. Did Rumple do that? –How is Neal’s apartment around for the Hood’s to squat in? –Why do handcuffs prevent Regina from doing magic? It wasn’t the Home Office Cuff–just normal handcuffs. She can’t wave her hands? –Why is it Zelena in the mirror? Is that a magic mirror? does she have to avoid all mirrors now in case someone sees it really her? –The hospital released Rumple even though he apparently has really thick magic blood that vanished within hours of diagnosis? Um. No.

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    I don’t think these are plot holes, I think these are unanswered questions that will be answered in future eps. Remember these are the same writers that wrote LOST, some questions get answered in upcoming seasons, and it’s not until you watch the entire series you are like….oh that’s why.

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    April 13, 2015 at 4:32 pm #301466
    Reginastwin3
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    I think I’m confused as to what is considered a plot hole and what is just an unanswered question.

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    I believe they are unanswered questions.

    I am a nerd at heart.

    April 13, 2015 at 5:23 pm #301480
    Sweets
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    I believe they are unanswered questions.

    I thought so…

    April 13, 2015 at 5:46 pm #301486
    PriceofMagic
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    I’m not sure how Regina killing Zelena would make her a hypocrite. She gave her a second chance. Just like everyone else gave her. Its not her fault Rumple killed Zelena and released her life force to create mayhem and destruction. If she DIDN’T give Zelena a second chance, that would have been hypocritical.

    I really don’t think Regina will kill Zelena by the way. We have already been shown there are faiths worst than death.

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    Regina killing Zelena makes her a hypocrite because when Rumple wanted to kill her, Regina was all “heroes don’t kill” and she decided to give Zelena a second chance even though Rumple had suffered worse under Zelena than Regina had. Now that the shoe is on the other foot, for argument’s sake say Zelena killed Robin, so Regina suffers the most, for Regina to kill Zelena because she was wronged after denying Rumple his vengeance against her for the same reasons is massively hypocritical of Regina.

    All magic comes with a price!

    Keeper of Felix
    April 13, 2015 at 6:41 pm #301490
    WickedRegal
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    Sweets wrote:

    I’m not sure how Regina killing Zelena would make her a hypocrite. She gave her a second chance. Just like everyone else gave her. Its not her fault Rumple killed Zelena and released her life force to create mayhem and destruction. If she DIDN’T give Zelena a second chance, that would have been hypocritical. I really don’t think Regina will kill Zelena by the way. We have already been shown there are faiths worst than death.

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    Regina killing Zelena makes her a hypocrite because when Rumple wanted to kill her, Regina was all “heroes don’t kill” and she decided to give Zelena a second chance even though Rumple had suffered worse under Zelena than Regina had. Now that the shoe is on the other foot, for argument’s sake say Zelena killed Robin, so Regina suffers the most, for Regina to kill Zelena because she was wronged after denying Rumple his vengeance against her for the same reasons is massively hypocritical of Regina.

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    As the same scenario with Zelena being partially responsible for Neal’s death, Rumple dishonored Neal’s wishes to stay a hero by trying to kill Zelena. Regina would know that Robin Hood would never want her to revert back to being a villain, therefore she would not kill her….more than likely send Zelena across the town line with nothing in her pockets, therefore banishing her to a life of misery rather than love and happiness and redemption as Regina originally tried to give her in 3×20 until Rumple took it upon himself to see to it that she does not gain a second chance.

    “Who haven’t we killed to get what we want?” – Regina (3×20)

    Rumple, Regina, and Hook have all done their wrongs in the past…but have gained redemption for it. Why should Zelena be exempted the same treatment when she has only been shown to now kill only two people compared to the other trio?

    "If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor

    April 13, 2015 at 6:47 pm #301491
    PriceofMagic
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    Why should Zelena be exempted the same treatment when she has only been shown to now kill only two people compared to the other trio?

    Because Zelena killed people, the trio killed statistics. The audience cared about Neal and Marian, they don’t care about Peasant #365

    All magic comes with a price!

    Keeper of Felix
    April 13, 2015 at 6:50 pm #301492
    schaendlich
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    schaendlich wrote:

    It’s just something I can’t continue to do without personally feeling awful. Sorry, for the rant. Just a bit upset about the entirety of planet Earth, right now…

    Please know that there are people who aren’t PoC themselves who are also totally over how this show has been treating PoC. It’s no fun when a show that used to bring you happiness, now makes you sad.

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    Yeah, I know. I generally view this fandom as a group of understanding individuals. I just always feel alone when I feel sad. It’s a thing. :/

    Hopefully, I’ll find another show that engages me as much as OUAT did. Though, I doubt I’ll find one with a cool forum of theorists, like this one. 🙂

    April 13, 2015 at 6:56 pm #301493
    WickedRegal
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    WickedRegal wrote:

    Why should Zelena be exempted the same treatment when she has only been shown to now kill only two people compared to the other trio?

    Because Zelena killed people, the trio killed statistics. The audience cared about Neal and Marian, they don’t care about Peasant #365

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    Still….The Trio killed, Zelena killed…it’d be hypocritical for the heroes to continue embracing the Trio whose killed dozens, but kick Zelena to the curb for two people. I understand Neal and Marian were important to storyline, but still….now Marian is 100% on Zelena’s kill list, Neal is partial.

    "If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor

    April 13, 2015 at 7:03 pm #301494
    MatthewPaul
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    Because Zelena killed people, the trio killed statistics. The audience cared about Neal and Marian, they don’t care about Peasant #365

    No, Regina killed Graham and Leopold (Snow’s father). Both are fairly note worthy characters. Should also note that Rumple killed Milah and Tamara, as terrible as they were. And why should we whitewash the deaths of those so called nameless characters? Killing is killing, and oh boy did Rumple and Regina kill loads of people.

    April 13, 2015 at 7:06 pm #301495
    PriceofMagic
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    PriceofMagic wrote:
    WickedRegal wrote:

    Why should Zelena be exempted the same treatment when she has only been shown to now kill only two people compared to the other trio?

    Because Zelena killed people, the trio killed statistics. The audience cared about Neal and Marian, they don’t care about Peasant #365

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    Still….The Trio killed, Zelena killed…it’d be hypocritical for the heroes to continue embracing the Trio whose killed dozens, but kick Zelena to the curb for two people. I understand Neal and Marian were important to storyline, but still….now Marian is 100% on Zelena’s kill list, Neal is partial.

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    The heroes were always hypocritical anyway. They never bothered socialising with Rumple unless they wanted something from him then when they got it they ignored him until the next time they wanted something. Snowing are the worst for it.

    All magic comes with a price!

    Keeper of Felix
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