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April 18, 2016 at 2:34 pm #321714PriceofMagicParticipant
Liked
Zelena- Zelena is one of the best things of season 5. This episode she’s just trying to enjoy a few drinks and keeps getting disturbed.
The Charming/Hook scene- It made Hook seem somewhat likeable this episode.
The blind witch “Sorry no dogs allowed” I did laugh at that and Ruby’s reaction.
Hades- Always a highlight and I’m kind of rooting for him to win.
Mixed
The Dorothy/Red relationship- On the one hand, it’s great that they’re doing an LGBT relationship and the other characters accept it no problem. On the other hand, I don’t buy this particular relationship. There was no chemistry and it just feels completely forced. Mulan is rendered completely useless and could be cut out completely without changing the story eg have Dorothy make the potion and that she needed the poppies hence why she and Ruby went to the field. Basically this was the neon flashing “special episode”.
Snow’s line “people in love hurt each other all the time”- I find this line somewhat troubling. Whilst I get what Snow was probably aiming for “sometimes the people we love do things that make us upset”, the phrasing used is not what I’d say describes a healthy relationship. If a couple in love are hurting each other all the time then that’s not a good relationship for either party to be in.
Belle going under the sleeping curse- I get why she’s doing it to stop Hades potentially accelerating the pregnancy which is a very real possibility and the sleeping curse would prevent that. However, it felt like she deliberately gave Rumple a kick in the teeth by telling him that her father’s kiss would wake her up. It’s practically telling Rumple that his kiss isn’t good enough. It just seemed a bit off.
Disliked
Dorothy’s backstory being too close to Alice’s from Wonderland- It’s practically the same. Girl visits magical land, returns home, family don’t believe her and think she’s crazy. Alice’s father didn’t believe her until he visited Wonderland himself. I don’t think Dorothy’s family’s reaction is bad as such. If this was the real world and a family member started talking about a magical land they visited as a real thing, you’d get them seen by a doctor who may have them “committed” or “sectioned” for their own safety so that they could get the help and support they need.
Regina blackmailing Zelena with baby greenbean- I dislike when Regina gets a holier than thou attitude.
Hook being able to change the names on the gravestone- It’s too convenient but also what’s to stop him sticking Rumple’s name on one stone and Zelena on another (two people he dislikes) and since none of the heroes give a crap about Belle, why not stick her name on too then suddenly you’ve got 3 trades so Emma, Regina and Charming get their names off the stone. It’s annoying because either way makes Hook look like a douchebag. If he doesn’t do it, then it’s kind of “why doesn’t he do that”, but if he did do it then it’s “Hook’s being a selfish prat again. All he cares about is Emma”.
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Keeper of FelixApril 18, 2016 at 4:49 pm #321737RumplesGirlKeymasterDorothy’s backstory being too close to Alice’s from Wonderland- It’s practically the same. Girl visits magical land, returns home, family don’t believe her and think she’s crazy. Alice’s father didn’t believe her until he visited Wonderland himself.
I don’t know if they pulled this idea from Alice of our WL OR from the Return to Oz movie in which Auntie Em and Uncle Henry actually ship Dorothy, freshly returned to Oz and sad, off to a mental hospital for electrotherapy treatments.
Return to Oz, by the way, is a Disney film, not associated with the iconic 1939 film.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"April 18, 2016 at 5:03 pm #321738MatthewPaulModeratorReturn to Oz, by the way, is a Disney film, not associated with the iconic 1939 film.
It’s Disney’s unofficial sequel to the iconic 1939 film, hence the title “Return to Oz”. They even went through the trouble of paying an insane amount for the permission to use the Ruby Slippers in their film. But yeah, it’s an unofficial sequel just like Oz the Great and Powerful is their unofficial prequel. I wouldn’t be surprised if future Oz flashbacks include Return to Oz characters such as the Nome King, Princess Mombi and the Wheelers.
April 18, 2016 at 10:22 pm #321760KebParticipantReturn to Oz basically combined the plots of the 2nd and 3rd books in the series, and was also terrifying and still suggested it was a dream sequence. (The books, imo, were better, but I still have a soft spot for that movie for some reason.)
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April 18, 2016 at 10:30 pm #321762onceaholicParticipant-Why doesn’t Hades turn everyone into gloop before they have the chance to move on to a better place.
Yes if Hades can do what he did to Auntie Em, then why can’t he just dump a whole vat of the river on Emma et al’s head and call it a day?
My assumption is that he can’t kill people. He can only keep them in the underworld or send them on to a better or worse place. If my guess is correct, it needs to be more explicit in the show.
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April 18, 2016 at 10:44 pm #321764RumplesGirlKeymasterMy assumption is that he can’t kill people. He can only keep them in the underworld or send them on to a better or worse place. If my guess is correct, it needs to be more explicit in the show.
If Hades is incapable of killing people then it needs to said outright. Loud. And in language that is so clear as to make it completely unquestionable because that (Hades’s being unable to kill) would just be straight up weird. We’ve never had a villain that couldn’t (not wouldn’t…but couldn’t) commit murder; and especially not one that was also a god.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"April 18, 2016 at 10:48 pm #321765PheeParticipantSnow’s line “people in love hurt each other all the time”- I find this line somewhat troubling. Whilst I get what Snow was probably aiming for “sometimes the people we love do things that make us upset”, the phrasing used is not what I’d say describes a healthy relationship. If a couple in love are hurting each other all the time then that’s not a good relationship for either party to be in.
That line was so jarring in the middle of her enouraging little peptalk. Can’t believe they didn’t re-work it to word it better. “Love can be hard, and sometimes you unintentionally hurt the person you love while you’re trying to figure it all out, but that doesn’t mean that you love each other any less.”
April 18, 2016 at 10:50 pm #321767onceaholicParticipantMy assumption is that he can’t kill people. He can only keep them in the underworld or send them on to a better or worse place. If my guess is correct, it needs to be more explicit in the show.
If Hades is incapable of killing people then it needs to said outright. Loud. And in language that is so clear as to make it completely unquestionable because that (Hades’s being unable to kill) would just be straight up weird. We’ve never had a villain that couldn’t (not wouldn’t…but couldn’t) commit murder; and especially not one that was also a god.
You know what this show is like….not everything that needs to made clear is made clear. Praying that it is made explicit.
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April 18, 2016 at 10:52 pm #321768onceaholicParticipantSo…
Why didn’t they send home Robin and the baby via the slippers with Snow (and Red)
Oh wait…his name needs to be on one of the grave stones so he can save Regina.
How about we save baby Green Bean at least….
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April 18, 2016 at 11:37 pm #321772MatthewPaulModeratorWe’ve never had a villain that couldn’t (not wouldn’t…but couldn’t) commit murder; and especially not one that was also a god.
Well, there was Cruella. Isaac literally took away her ability to kill anybody.
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