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Only thing I disliked was if Rumple lost his magic how come he wasn’t limping?
Could’ve been to show that they kept their internal magic or something. After all, Snow and Charming didn’t drop dead from heart failure.
Liked:
* Painting of Martian war machines in Gold’s hotel room? War of the Worlds coming to OUAT? Please?
* “Terrorist Detonates Bomb In Fountain In NYC”
* Charming blocking a “T” on the “HATTERS” sign.
* “Henry, there’s something I haven’t told you…” (Kinda glad they didn’t go that route, but it would have been interesting, with both of Henry’s moms right there.)
* That “Modern Fashions” store display is sure to upset people around here.
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So Violet’s father was from the Land Without Magic and got to Camelot? Why did Rumple go through 200 years to get here!
I guess we know the name of another Author now.
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I really enjoyed this episode. It was the best finale ever since “Going Home”. What made this episode so great for me is characters dealing with internal conflicts, the dysfunctional family dynamic and I really fell in love with Regina all over again.
My problems with this episode is disregarding Dopey-tree and apparently the twon line is no longer a thing, so what was the point in doing that in 502?! and how Snow and Charming are friends with the woman who kidnapped their baby.
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LIKED
– Regina and the EQ facing off. ‘Nuff said!!!
– A potion that ‘separates good from evil’. INTRIGUING! I want to see everyone take a bit of this next season!
– The character of the Dragon.
– The idea that magic does exist in our world, it’s just hidden.
– Granny texting Emma. I miss Granny so much that even a text from her is appreciated at this point.
– Gold’s speech about how the darkness inside oneself can’t be stuffed into a corner. I actually agree with him about this; I’m of the opinion that repressing one’s shadow self is counterproductive. But I don’t agree that the alternative is to give the darkness free reign to the extent of committing murder. Anyway, it’s an interesting concept to explore.
– How they seem to be setting up Season 6 to be about battling the enemy within.
MIXED
– Henry’s speech at the wishing fountain. It was actually inspirational. I would have been mightily impressed with Henry’s guts and faith if he hadn’t been pontificating about the evils of magic literally five minutes before. The fast turnaround makes him seem almost bipolar. But I don’t think he’s bipolar; I think it’s just the Charming brand of dimwitted recklessness in him. The fact that it took so little to change his mind just highlights how poorly thought out his actions were to begin with.
– The portal created by people wishing at the fountain. It was a sweet moment, but a little simplistic for my taste. I still yearn for the days when travel between realms was ‘as hard as it gets’.
– The land of Untold Stories. Interesting enough, but it didn’t really excite me as much as it should have.
DISLIKED
– Snow suggesting that Regina use the potion to separate the EQ from herself. Really, Snow? I can’t believe Regina and Emma actually got on board with this plan. Besides, Regina trying to stay good by murdering her shadow self was ironic. Personally, I believe in a yin/yang type duality and balance – both in people and the world at large. There is always light in darkness and darkness in light, and the two coexist and always will. Same goes for good and evil.
– Violet’s dad being from this world. Total retcon and far too convenient. Besides, I don’t want more Violet. She’s boring, and frankly so is her romance with Henry.
– They didn’t make it totally clear what Hyde wanted. Or maybe I just need to rewatch that part.
Gold’s speech about how the darkness inside oneself can’t be stuffed into a corner. I actually agree with him about this;
I also liked that he recognizes it can’t be stuffed into another person which is something the show often tries to do.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Quite the interesting finale. Mixed bag here but mostly good.
Squeaks by with a 7/10. I’m doing both parts.
Liked:
– Regina and Emma Scene in Neal’s apartment. One of the best scenes of the season. When they actually spend time with character development, it’s so good. And these two desperately needed to chat. Lana was great as always.
– Rumple going for the crystal before Belle. That’s all you need to know right there. I no longer can root for this couple. The man will never love her more than his power.
– Overall, I liked Henry in this episode. And I liked the kiss he got in the end and Emma and Regina’s reactions.
– Regina’s struggle throughout the episode was fantastic.
– Mr. Hyde. I think the actor was good. It will be interesting to see what they do with him next season, and what other untold stories they are actually going to tell.
– I love the EQ. Splitting her up allows them not to butcher Regina’s development. I just literally have no idea where they are going with this.
– Hook using his Hook to stab Hyde.
– YAY DRAGON!
– An August reference!
– Many Neal references. It was nice for Henry to continuously talk about his Dad and refer to him as such.
– Henry using his author abilities to take the crystal.
– I thought the CGI was solid for the most part and the new land was interesting.
Mixed:
– What was Rumple going to do with the sterling silver plate and that table with the markings on it and the crystal? What was his plan before Henry destroyed magic.
– So there are more story books?
– So are they going to delve into Violet’s father now? That just seemed like quite the random thing to drop on us if they weren’t going to explore it. Could Violet’s father be Lily’s dad? Could Maleficent be Lily’s mom who supposedly “died?”
– The fountain scene. Ok so this is a very powerful message from OUAT and it is very season 1. And I get what they were doing. However, it was so incredibly corny, and I’m not sure something like that works so great on the tv, but the message was clear and that part I liked. And I liked it came from Henry, who has the heart of the truest believer. Hooray for not forgetting prior plot points! But would a bunch of busy New Yorkers really stop dead in their tracks to listen to a kid next to a lion? Not convinced. But having them think it was some sort of magic show, worked.
Disliked:
– So there’s another holy grail? In a random library?
– Henry’s bi-polar behavior. So by the end, he’s back on team magic again? What about all the reasons he decided to go Rogue in the first place? Nothing has changed.
– Too many convenient plot points. Like the apprentice’s wand breaking. Of course. The holy grail being there when they needed it. And there were many more.
– Roland being raised by the Merry Men. Like what????? I know it wouldn’t work to have Regina babysitting all day and raising Roland, but come on. How on earth is this the best for the child. Robin would be rolling over in his grave if he knew Regina would just forget about Roland. And I know Regina was somewhere else so Zelena had to do it, but like I doubt she will even mention Roland going forward. He was still very cute though and the CGI of the getting sucked into the portal was cool.
– So what does this mean going forward? I thought this would be the magic vs science story line but I’m not sure it is. Like why does Mr. Hyde want to be running storybrooke? We didn’t even get his motivations. And like isn’t everyone there powerful enough to overthrow him? I just don’t see him as that big of a threat. He has no magic capabilities. He’s just really strong. I was sort of hoping the Jekyll and Hyde stuff would lead us to a bigger villain because I don’t think Mr. Hyde is big enough to carry a half season. I realize they have brought the EQ back to help, but I really hope next season is more than just a collection of misfit characters getting the arc of the week and a crazy EQ going around (not sure what her motivation really is either). After all, the EQ was only horrible because of what Snow White did. She only killed people to get to Snow White. So will the EQ just want to kill Snow and her family still? I really just don’t understand the motivations for either villain which is problematic when we are going into hiatus and have no idea where the story is going.
I’m also sick of the finale’s having nothing to do with the overarching plot of the season. They have done this like three straight times now and I’m not the biggest fan. It takes away from the season.
I’m also sick of the finale’s having nothing to do with the overarching plot of the season. They have done this like three straight times now and I’m not the biggest fan. It takes away from the season
I agree with this. As much as I liked the season finale (especially the second half…) this is a problem. It’s pretty disconnected from anything that happened in the arc (Hades, the Underworld) that you almost, for a second, forget that we just spend 10 episodes battling the Lord of the Underworld. The finale could have been a great time to have the big showdown between Hades and the SB gang and to flesh out Hades a lot more than what the writers did over the course of the arc.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"I’m also sick of the finale’s having nothing to do with the overarching plot of the season. They have done this like three straight times now and I’m not the biggest fan. It takes away from the season
I agree with this. As much as I liked the season finale (especially the second half…) this is a problem. It’s pretty disconnected from anything that happened in the arc (Hades, the Underworld) that you almost, for a second, forget that we just spend 10 episodes battling the Lord of the Underworld. The finale could have been a great time to have the big showdown between Hades and the SB gang and to flesh out Hades a lot more than what the writers did over the course of the arc.
I agree. It actually felt like a season premiere rather than a season finale.
Season 4 finale had some connection to the arc so it didn’t feel like it was out of context.
Season 3 finale was just a self contained filler movie which added nothing to the the season or even the following season. It was just bad.
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I wonder if the “final battle” prophesised in the Pilot is going to be the battle between everyone’s good and evil side?
This was a decent episode and I’m actually looking forward to next season.Liked
Hyde- it’ll be interesting to see where that goes.
RumBelle is still sailing- Rumple is still focussed on saving Belle. He’s the only one that cares about her because everyone else doesn’t seem to give a damn now that they got the people who “matter” back.
Anyone else noticed that when Snow was talking about being at the birth of the EQ and now wanting to see Regina “end
her”, Ginny’s voice changed to “Dark Snow”?Mixed
Separating the dark side from the light- Whilst it’s good to have the evil Queen back, I think Rumple’s right in that the dark side is a part of you and trying to ignore it isn’t going to end well. I think season 6 might be about finding a balance between the two rather than going one way or the other.
Dislike
Henry making the year in New York about CS- Henry talking about how it was just him and Emma then Henry made a wish and Hook came two days later. Did Henry completely forget about Walshe? The guy who dated Emma and was going to ask her to marry him?
Henry- Henry is annoying. He gets ideas above his station and he makes the situation worse because he thinks he knows best. I’m glad he felt guilty about his actions because he should.
Henry and Violet- It is so boring. Henry’s too young to be involved in a deep and meaningful relationship. Yes he’d show an interest in girls (or they could’ve done something unexpected and made Henry gay) but the way the scenes were written between Henry and Violet, it’s not how teenagers would act. I hope Henry gets his heartbroken. How did Violet know her dad didn’t return to Camelot, she was out of town when everybody else returned to the EF then when she did get back to Storybrooke, she hadn’t even spoken to her father?
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