Favourite legitimate couples

[angiebelle]

Hm…see, I’ve always understood cannon to mean something that is a part of the official version of the story, not something that will never change. Neal and Emma have been in a relationship on the show and still have feelings for each other- therefore they are cannon. Captain Swan isn’t *currently* cannon because they have not actually been in a relationship on the show, but that doesn’t mean it won’t become cannon later should the writers choose to take it in that direction. While I prefer SF myself, I could see CS happening. So, CS’ers please don’t take offense!

I guess we have different opinions on the definition of cannon!

As for Regina and Graham- those kisses weren’t authentic…he was being controlled.

[RumplesGirl]

This is why I included the “highly contentious” part of our definition when I wrote it. lol.

In internet fan culture, “canon” means what you say but it also has taken on a meaning of being true and established and for sure. Rumbelle is canon in that Rumple isn’t suddenly going to find a new TL. That’s why SF can’t be considered canon *yet* because A and E haven’t set them up as true love and for sure.

Like I said. Highly contentious.

And yes with Regina and Graham, but if your definition of legit is “we’ve seen them kiss” then we’ve got problems. Defining our terms is really important in this thread which is why I’m currently a crazy person who sounds psycho. Sorry, guys. Just trying to stop any wars before they happen.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[angiebelle]

I guess what I meant by “we’ve seen them kiss” is really “we’ve seen them kiss within the definition of their relationship” meaning they have been romantically involved. I guess I should have phrased that differently- I think I meant it in a more figurative way than a literal one.

I have to admit- I was under the impression that A and E *have* set Neal and Emma up as TL…but obviously there are many others who disagree with that assessment, and I respect that.

You are probably right that the poll ought to be rephrased or redefined so no one gets upset.

[pixiexw]

I apologies if this upsets anyone but as a person who is quite new to the actually OUAT fandom I didn’t actually know there were people who considered te C/S ship a real one, I’m sorry if I upset anyone by not including them and I agree with Angiebelle I was considering the couples who are current, who have actually announced love for each other as. Legitimate couples.

[RumplesGirl]

I wasn’t trying to scare you off from the fandom or single you out, Pixie. The CS ship is actually HUGE and we have a lot of them here on our board (and I love them all dearly even if I’m on a different ship), I just wanted to reduce any tension that might arise.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[pixiexw]

AngieBelle I agree I also felt that Emma and Neal had been set up as true love but like you say obviously others have different opinions lol.
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Rumplesgirl- yeah it’s amazing how much I’ve learned over the course of a week or two, I’d always assumed that Snowing would be the biggest couple and yet as far as I’ve seen it seems to be one of the smallest. And yeah I also agree, people need to remember that everyone is entitled to their own opinion and I’m glad that it is that way on this forum!
Also it’s surprising that I’m not a Belle fan- since I am probably most like her but I am very much not a fan of her character in OUAT and I don’t really know why she just irritates me. As I say I’ve not seen all of season 2 year- we’re only on episode eleven in the uk- so I hope that might change.

[Keb]

Nah, Snowing is definitely a major couple–the entirety of S1 was dedicated to their coming together in both worlds. The first half of S2 reprised that slightly as they were separated again; they were put a tiny bit to the back burner in the second half because of the Rumple/Neal arc and the Cora/Snow arc and then the whole GOAT thing, but always important. I was actually surprised that Rumbelle didn’t get -more- action in S2, but I’d say they were the major romantic arc we saw in S2, with SF and CS being teased along but neither coming to any kind of resolution. And I think S2 was less about romance than S1 anyway–it was about family and the internal struggle of good vs evil.

Keeper of Belle's Gold magic, sand dollar, cloaks, purple FTL outfit, spell scroll, library key, copy of Romeo and Juliet, and cry-muffling pillow, Rumple's doll, overcoat, and strength, and The Timeline. My spreadsheet: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6r8CySCCWd9R0RUNm4xR3RhMEU/view?usp=sharing

[PriceofMagic]

Hook and the Floor should probably be considered a couple. Hook spends a lot of his time with the floor.

All magic comes with a price!

Keeper of Felix

[Keb]

Yes. Flook is the best, though the floor’s been cheating on Hook with a lot of the other dudes. Even Rumple 🙁

Keeper of Belle's Gold magic, sand dollar, cloaks, purple FTL outfit, spell scroll, library key, copy of Romeo and Juliet, and cry-muffling pillow, Rumple's doll, overcoat, and strength, and The Timeline. My spreadsheet: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6r8CySCCWd9R0RUNm4xR3RhMEU/view?usp=sharing

[MysteryKat25]

I voted for RumBelle even though I also adore Snowing but I too have an issue with the term “legitimate” because technically that would include anyone ever shown as a couple on the show or vice versa, only those proven as true love. It *seems* like the 2nd option was chosen since the the others that RG listed weren’t included and that’s fine, but in that case SF needs to be taken off the list simply because a) they are not currently a couple and haven’t been for what, 12 years? and b) it hasn’t been proven as true love in any way as of YET like Snowing & RumBelle has.

As of right now I understand what you’re trying to do and as a huge CaptainSwan person I am NOT upset because they haven’t been shown to be the level of canon needed to be added to the list (ie: a kiss as you mentioned). However there are other couples that have kissed and do have feelings for each other (Grumpy/Nova for instance) that we haven’t gotten to explore more of but I don’t feel like all of those couples should be ignored when SF gets to be included. Not to mention that Cinderella & her prince ARE canon & together off being happy and they weren’t included either. (I presume most would vote for Snowing or RumBelle still, but if we’re going off of canon couples who are actually together, then Cinderella/Thomas would fit better *CURRENTLY* than SwanFire – that is not a slight to SF, they may end up there eventually, just saying if we’re narrowing it down to couples currently together, others fit that better).

So I’m not upset my favorite option isn’t there and I was really excited to see somebody tackle an actual canon coupling poll (though I do hope other options get added to that category in the future). I’m just a little disappointed because I’m not clear on what terms were used, simply because the categorization doesn’t make sense.

I know this started a HUGE fiasco in a livechat one day when someone asked if SF had been proven as true love YET and the fact remains that they haven’t, YET. Henry hasn’t been proven to be magical/product of true love status like Emma, we don’t know if his heart can be taken etc etc and Emma and/or Neal have not been put under a sleeping curse only being able to be woken by each other. Nothing has been PROVEN like it has with RumBelle & Snowing.

So I love the idea, in theory – and I’m not upset about the shipping wars in this particular instance. All I’m saying is I don’t feel like they should have been included because they are not a couple *right now* and if that’s the criteria then all former couples should have been included as well. So I sincerely hope that people continue voting Snowing or RumBelle to make this more “legitimate” because I am curious about what people think about the actual couples we’ve seen on the show and not just all the possibilities people come up with.

Please don’t let this deter you from participating in the forums and having fun with any of it. I applaud the effort, I really do. I just ask that the criteria for a poll that is likely to get heated because of shipper bias have very specific criteria or include more options (however unlikely it is for them to get votes) that fit said criteria instead of including half of a triangle that doesn’t really fit (YET).

Again, has nothing to do with being a CS fan. If you had included them I’d have said I’d love them to be canon but so far they’re not. Not bashing SF, they just haven’t earned their spot if this is a TL poll, and if it’s just any ship in the fandom that has been shown as being an actual couple for however long, then there are a lot of other options that should have been included (Cinderella/Thomas, Regina/Daniel, Grumpy/Nova, etc etc – if we’re only counting those still together, then Cinderella/Thomas should have been added & SwanFire removed – again, for NOW, I’m not saying they won’t make it back there someday, it’s possible).

Just my 2 cents. Sorry for the over-clarification on stuff but it’s not that I don’t want SF, I just don’t think they have earned their spot in canon couples still together, which is apparently what this poll is for, in which case please add to the list.

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