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October 22, 2013 at 9:44 pm #218086RumplesGirlKeymaster
Ooooooooh. I really like that Slurpeez. If Felix is actually GROWING UP that goes everything Peter Pan stands for!
[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"October 23, 2013 at 12:15 am #218123PheeParticipantFelix growing up could well explain why he can’t hear the music. Or maybe he can hear it, but he’s just not interested in dancing to it because he’s grown out of it? But then, if that’s Felix’s mindset, then why does Pan trust him so completely?
Could Felix be Pan’s superior, or predecessor? Could he have been in NL before Pan, and be the one who took him there originally?
He just seems so deranged, so dedicated, so solitary. There’s gotta be a story there.
October 23, 2013 at 1:25 am #218131GrimmsisterParticipantI looked up the name Felix and found that the composer Mendelsohn, who wrote the music for the play “A midsummer nihts dream” his first name is Felix.. perhabs its just a nod, perhabs its nothing, or perhabs they are gonna use that story more while on Neverland.
October 23, 2013 at 1:51 am #218134storytellerParticipantFor someone who’s name means “happy/lucky” he looks more like sad sack. Maybe for Felix he came by choice and not by charm to look after a younger sibling and became morose after his death. Remember what Hook said to him in that fight during 3×02.
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October 23, 2013 at 2:06 am #218137PheeParticipantI looked up the name Felix and found that the composer Mendelsohn, who wrote the music for the play “A midsummer nihts dream” his first name is Felix.. perhabs its just a nod, perhabs its nothing, or perhabs they are gonna use that story more while on Neverland.
Interesting connection, because Pan sorta makes me think of Puck…
Puck, also known as Robin Goodfellow, is a character in William Shakespeare’s play A Midsummer Night’s Dream that was based on the ancient figure in English mythology, also called Puck.
Puck is a clever, mischievous elf or sprite that personifies the trickster or the wise knave. In the play, Shakespeare introduces Puck as the “shrewd and knavish sprite” and “that merry wanderer of the night” in some scenes it would seem that he is longing for freedom and he is also a jester to Oberon, the fairy king. Puck and Bottom are the only two characters who interact and progress the three central stories in the whole play; Puck is the one who is first introduced in the fairies’ story and creates the drama of the lovers’ story by messing up who loves whom, as well as by placing the ass on Bottom’s head in his story. Similarly, Bottom is performing in a play in his story intending it to be presented in the lovers’ story as well as interacting with Titania in the fairies’ story.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puck_%28A_Midsummer_Night%27s_Dream%29
Clever, mischievous, shrewd, magical being. And I believe Pan’s in league with Blue, and Puck was league with fairies. And I believe Pan’s had a hand in orchestrating the hot mess that our characters got tangled up in, and Puck orchestrated the hot mess in the play.October 23, 2013 at 5:59 am #218142PheeParticipantWent to read up a bit on Felix Mendelssohn and ended up with a bit of a crackpot theory, (as you do).
The Overture in E major, Op. 21, was written by Mendelssohn at 17 years and 6 months old (it was finished on 6 August 1826), and George Grove called it “the greatest marvel of early maturity that the world has ever seen in music”. It was written as a concert overture, not associated with any performance of the play. The Overture was written after Mendelssohn had read a German translation of the play in 1826.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Midsummer_Night%27s_Dream_%28Mendelssohn%29
Then I went and looked up the Overture to see what it sounds like.
Now I confess that I know nothing about composing, and can’t pick what notes are what just by listening to them, so I can’t say if any actual notes are matchy matchy. All I can say is that the Overture starts with 4 slow notes before picking up the pace, and if you go to the scene with Rumple sitting on the roof, waiting to hear the Piper’s song, it starts out the same way, 4 slow notes, then it starts to get quicker.So…here comes the crackpot theory part…
17 year old Felix Mendelssohn wrote the Overture for A Midsummer Night’s Dream…
Age somewhere around late teens Felix Onceiverse wrote the Piper’s song, and that’s why he remains unaffected by it.A Midsummer Night’s Dream is basically a story of a bunch of people who are manipulated into acting a certain way due to fairy interference. There are elements of that in the storyline of Once, because we’ve seen magical beings, (Rumple, Pan, Sneaky Fairy), manipulating the actions of others. We know there’s a pic in Henry’s book of Titania and Oberon, (Fairy Queen and King), who are characters in A Midsummer’s Night’s Dream. So I know my little theory about Felix having written Pan’s song, based on Felix Mendelssohn writing the Overture seems like a bit of a stretch, but considering there are elements from that story in the show already, I figured I’d throw it out there, because maybe there is a connection, and it’s why they chose the name Felix for the character in the first place?
If so, it could suggest that our Felix is in a powerful position, if he’s the composer of the song/story that everyone falls in line and dances along with.
October 23, 2013 at 6:03 am #218143kfchimeraParticipantPhee, that reference has been nibbling at me too, along with influence from Shakespeare’s, the Tempest, about a group that shipwrecks on an island controlled by a mysterious sorcerer.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tempest
I don’t know how directly there is a correlation with it, but there’s sort of this backstory of one brother betraying the other out of the kingdom, and then the other luring him to an island to take back his birthright and expose the betrayal.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
October 23, 2013 at 9:17 am #218163RumplesGirlKeymasterSo…here comes the crackpot theory part… 17 year old Felix Mendelssohn wrote the Overture for A Midsummer Night’s Dream… Age somewhere around late teens Felix Onceiverse wrote the Piper’s song, and that’s why he remains unaffected by it.
Interesting. But maybe the song didn’t work on children when Felix played it, so he sought out someone who could make it work. And that was Peter. So he became very loyal to Peter. But now he’s disillusioned because a lot of time has passed and he doesn’t like that Peter is replacing him with new magical toy: Henry.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"October 23, 2013 at 9:23 am #218164RumplesGirlKeymasterGotta give Parker a hand. He’s really handling this sudden burst into fandom well.
@OUATTheorie maybe, we will know more soon. What do you think?
— Parker Croft (@parkercroft) October 22, 2013
@lizziebusy23 I can't say. Sorry.
— Parker Croft (@parkercroft) October 22, 2013
@mihyuck @mihyuck great question Bug, sadly one I'm not allowed to answer.
— Parker Croft (@parkercroft) October 22, 2013
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"October 23, 2013 at 3:03 pm #218254RumplesGirlKeymaster@Punk_Bunny_87 very interesting.
— Parker Croft (@parkercroft) October 23, 2013
Hmmmmmmmmmm
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