Filming Shots for 2×3

[Phee]

It’s like a big logic problem, or like we’re investigating a crime or something. “If A & B were at location C on date D, then that means the likely suspect is episode 4.” 😆

@slurpeez108 wrote:

Another post on tumblr reports that Josh Dallas, Ginnifer Goodwin, and Jamie Chung were doing a shoot in Burnaby Mountain Park on Friday, August 17 (i.e. the night shoot that Ginny tweeted about).

Googlemaps tells me that parts of that parkland are down by the water, so could possibly be where those huts are set up.

[Josephine]

I love you guys. Bee is stalking someone on Twitter, Phee is using Google maps to plot out coordinates. Who needs the FBI when you’ve got Once fans.

I think they’re filming multiple episodes probably. Between pre- to post-production, they’ve probably got their hands on two or three episodes right now. I remember reading a while ago that the show Glee works on multiple episodes at one time. With their huge ensemble cast (I think it’s up to around 20 regular and recurring people) someone is either recording for this episode or learning the choreography for another episode and then filming something else, they’re usually involved in multiple things. I think Once is probably doing the same thing. I try now to guess which episode their working on. I’m never right when I guess anyway.

Keeper of Rumplestiltskin's and Neal's spears and war paint and crystal ball.

[hjbau]

Yeah, but i do think for the most part they film the episodes one at a time. They are working on more then one at a time in that they are writing for the next one, doing post production on the last one, and filming the current one. But i do think other then that they are filming one at a time with maybe a little crossover at the beginning and end of filming. They are filming 204 right now though. They most likely do not even have 201 completely finished yet though.

[antbee]

I didn’t start a new topic because I don’t know how accurate this spoiler is since it’s from IMDb, and the person who posted it didn’t have a link to where she found it. However, it seems like a likely title given the other spoilers about episode 3. It’s suppose to be titled, “The Lady of the Lake”.

[Phee]

That title would certainly fit, though we never got any casting calls or info for the character Lady of the Lake, which is curious. Hmmmmm.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_of_the_Lake
The Lady of the Lake is the name of several related characters who play parts in the Arthurian legend. These characters’ roles include giving King Arthur his sword Excalibur, enchanting Merlin, and raising Lancelot after the death of his father.

More about Lancelot’s connection to Lady of the Lake is here:
http://www.timelessmyths.com/arthurian/lancelot.html#Lady

This couldn’t somehow work into the “complicated relationship” Lancelot has with Snow, could it? Lady of the Lake couldn’t have been Snow’s mother, could she? And when she was given the task to save baby Lancelot, she had to choose between that or staying with her daughter, and she chose the former? Has it been specifically said Snow’s mother died, or is she just ambiguously “lost”?

[hjbau]

Maybe Snow is the Lady of the Lake.

[Slurpeez]

I keep thinking back to to episode 1×13 What Happened to Frederick in which Prince Charming volunteered to defeat the siren of Lake Gnostos (who could be the “Lady of the Lake”). The siren resembled Snow White so as to tempt Prince Charming, and he slayed the siren and lost his sword at the bottom of the lake. Could the sword be Excalibur? Perhaps the sword was lost to time but Rumpel somehow retrieved that which was lost from the magical lake, because we know Mr. Gold had it in his pawn shop in the season 1 finale.

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

[hjbau]

I don’t think Charming lost his sword at the bottom of the lake in that scene.

PS. Yeah. I thought he had it in the next scene when they woke up Frederick. He puts his hand on it and turns away when they kiss.

[Slurpeez]

hjbau wrote: I don’t think Charming lost his sword at the bottom of the lake in that scene.

I hadn’t watched 1×13 since it aired, but I went and rewatched the episode on the DVD. Prince Charming did drop his sword in the lake at the very beginning of entering the shallow water.

However, in the next scene that hjbau captured an image of, Prince Charming has his sword again. So, either he went back and picked up his sword after killing the siren (we the audience didn’t see this happen), or this is an error on the part of the director and producers.

I still think the siren from 1×13 could be the Lady of the Lake, who can impersonate anyone else, depending on whom she’s trying to lure to their deaths. I did a quick internet research about the Lady of the Lake legend. Like Phee wrote, there are many varieties of this legend.

According to Wikipedia, the poet Alfred Tennyson wrote about the Lady of the Lake as being two different people:

Modern authors of Arthurian fiction adapt the Lady of the Lake legend in various ways, often using two or more bearers of the title. Alfred Tennyson adapted several stories of the Lady of the Lake for his poetic cycle Idylls of the King. He splits her into two characters; Viviane is a deceitful villain who ensnares Merlin, while the Lady of the Lake is a benevolent figure who raises Lancelot and gives Arthur his sword.

This supports my theory that the siren could be Viviane, the “deceitful villain who ensnared Merlin”.
I have a theory that Merlin is Dr. Whale, so I’d love to see the evil Viviane (aka the evil siren/Lady of the Lake) be his unrequited love interest, since it’d be an interesting tale.

It also leaves open the possibility of there being a secondary lady of the lake who is a “benevolent figure who raises Lancelot.” What if Snow’s mother is the benevolent figure who raised baby Lancelot while the siren was the evil figure who tried to lure Charming to his death in 1×13?

Phee wrote: This couldn’t somehow work into the “complicated relationship” Lancelot has with Snow, could it? Lady of the Lake couldn’t have been Snow’s mother, could she? And when she was given the task to save baby Lancelot, she had to choose between that or staying with her daughter, and she chose the former? Has it been specifically said Snow’s mother died, or is she just ambiguously “lost”?

I think it’s plausible that the Lady of the Lake could also be Snow White’s long lost mother. In 1×18, Snow White said she didn’t want Regina to lose her mother like she’d lost hers, but never said her mother was dead. In 1×18, King Leopold said he’d lost Snow’s mother years ago, (but didn’t say it was the result of death).

As far as Snow’s and Lancelot’s “complicated relationship” it could refer to Lancelot being her mother’s adopted child (aka Snow’s adopted brother). If Lancelot were raised by Snow’s mother (who had to leave her daughter with Leopold), perhaps Snow never knew the truth of her mother’s fate. Perhaps Leopold led Snow to believe her mother had died, but really she’d left in secret to raise Lancelot.

If Snow discovered the truth after her father’s death but before meeting Prince Charming, things would be very hard on her. Snow White would have a “complicated relationship” with her adopted brother, Lancelot, and she’d be dealing with feelings of resentment towards him and her mother for leaving. Prince Charming may not know any of this, because Snow has a lot of emotional baggage to work through on her own, and it might have been hushed by King Leopold for the shame of his wife’s leaving. I hope this is the case, because I’m not looking forward to a possible love triangle again between Prince Charming, Snow White, and someone new like Lancelot. I don’t want Charming to be Arthur or for Snow White to be Guinevere.

I also found some further speculation about the spoiler here:
http://cartermatt.com/31840/once-upon-a-time-season-2-spoilers-an-episode-about-a-lake/

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

[princesssnow]

I like the idea of Snow White’s mother being the Lady of the Lake. It is definitely curious that though Snow White’s mom is referenced to several times, it is always said she was “lost” and not that she passed away, killed, etc. While lost can mean death too, it is obviously A LOT more ambiguous than flat out directly saying she is dead.

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