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March 9, 2013 at 12:39 am #178335nonnieParticipant
WHAT I DO NOT LIKE is the inconsistency of EVA’s character… You do not start as a young lady who trips people and is bratty and then turn into an UNSELFISH, Loving ruler…. What changed her and made her good? What transformed her character?
The show does this all the time write their characters inconsistently to drive the plot. It drives me NUTS! To me it is lazy writing.
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.[adrotate group="5"]March 9, 2013 at 12:39 am #178336MatthewPaulModeratorWhile I do appreciate the spoilers and sneak peeks, I somewhat hope that the next few episodes just have the regular minimal sneak peeks and no several TV news sites giving extensive hints about how the episode goes down. I know those sites only get to prescreen select episodes, so it is not an every week occurrence.
March 9, 2013 at 12:41 am #178337chexmex325ParticipantLol “I just came for the free food” Reminds me of Jacqueline from Ever After: “I’m only here for the food”
Plus all these sneak peeks make me think something big is gonna go down in the last few minutes…aside from someone dying of courseMarch 9, 2013 at 12:49 am #178340MysteryKat25Participant@NONNIE wrote:
WHAT I DO NOT LIKE is the inconsistency of EVA’s character… You do not start as a young lady who trips people and is bratty and then turn into an UNSELFISH, Loving ruler…. What changed her and made her good? What transformed her character?
The show does this all the time write their characters inconsistently to drive the plot. It drives me NUTS! To me it is lazy writing.
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.They’re not plotholes or inconsistencies when it’s showing us the past and then filling in the gaps along the way. We only met the character last week! They already showed that Snow was being a brat and learned her lesson and (until very recently) has always strived to do the right thing in honor of Eva and the things she taught her. So what’s to say that Eva didn’t used to be young and stupid and something showed her the error of her ways? I’m sure we’ll see what made Eva smarten up, maybe even this week. She was young here, people get wiser with age (at least I hope so) and realize that they can’t do the stupid stuff they did as kids, it’s not right. We’ve only seen what Eva became, not where she started out. Give her a chance.
Occasionally other characters may seem a little “out of character” but anything that is from a flashback just means that we haven’t actually gotten to see where they got that power, or why they switched so drastically from good to evil. Give it time and more gaps will be filled in. If they weren’t going to go into what made these people who they are there wouldn’t be that much of a plot to begin with and we wouldn’t have a show to enjoy.
Keeper of Hook's Trenchcoat.
March 9, 2013 at 12:54 am #178342MatthewPaulModerator@MysteryKat25 wrote:
They’re not plotholes or inconsistencies when it’s showing us the past and then filling in the gaps along the way. We only met the character last week! They already showed that Snow was being a brat and learned her lesson and (until very recently) has always strived to do the right thing in honor of Eva and the things she taught her. So what’s to say that Eva didn’t used to be young and stupid and something showed her the error of her ways? I’m sure we’ll see what made Eva smarten up, maybe even this week. She was young here, people get wiser with age (at least I hope so) and realize that they can’t do the stupid stuff they did as kids, it’s not right. We’ve only seen what Eva became, not where she started out. Give her a chance.
Occasionally other characters may seem a little “out of character” but anything that is from a flashback just means that we haven’t actually gotten to see where they got that power, or why they switched so drastically from good to evil. Give it time and more gaps will be filled in. If they weren’t going to go into what made these people who they are there wouldn’t be that much of a plot to begin with and we wouldn’t have a show to enjoy.
I get the impression that both this episode and the last are showing that not only is “evil isn’t born, it’s made”, but neither is good. People aren’t born pure good or pure evil. It is their actions and life experiences that determine who they become.
March 9, 2013 at 12:56 am #178343RumplesGirlKeymaster@NONNIE wrote:
WHAT I DO NOT LIKE is the inconsistency of EVA’s character… You do not start as a young lady who trips people and is bratty and then turn into an UNSELFISH, Loving ruler…. What changed her and made her good? What transformed her character?
The show does this all the time write their characters inconsistently to drive the plot. It drives me NUTS! To me it is lazy writing.
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.Well, there’s obviously a lot of story we haven’t seen. Something changes Eva, but we don’t know because we haven’t seen that story. I think it’s a nice parallel to young Snow of last week. Maybe Eva lost her mom too and that’s how she became kind and sweet.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"March 9, 2013 at 1:20 am #178348drtslimParticipantI actually enjoy Cora as a character and find her intriguing. I mean how much worse is she than Rumplestiltskin and Regina? They’ve both done things that are just as bad or worse than her for similar reasons. The main difference is that they are both trying to reform and she isn’t.
March 9, 2013 at 2:03 am #178354TheGoldenKeyParticipantAnyone else notice the difference in physical traits between Prince Henry and Henry Mills Sr.? The difference in their height was quite noticeable. I know we all shrink a little as we get older but gosh, that was a lot.
These guys are never sloppy when casting roles. They pay close attention to details. I’m really beginning to wonder if they aren’t too separate people after all.
Keeper of Pandora's Box & The Yellow Brick Road.
March 9, 2013 at 2:07 am #178355RumplesGirlKeymaster@TheGoldenKey wrote:
Anyone else notice the difference in physical traits between Prince Henry and Henry Mills Sr.? The difference in their height was quite noticeable. I know we all shrink a little as we get older but gosh, that was a lot.
These guys are never sloppy when casting roles. They pay close attention to details. I’m really beginning to wonder if they aren’t too separate people after all.
It could be a statement on how powerful Cora is. She made this handsome Prince into a cowardly timid man. They could be trying to draw a parallel.
Cora and Henry together were interesting. I doubt she was really there for the food, makes me wonder if she had designs on the Prince all along."He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"March 9, 2013 at 2:07 am #178356midnight drearyParticipantInteresting clip. I’m guessing after the king locks Cora in the tower, that’s when Rumpel appears to make her an offer.
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