First Sneak Peek of Queen of Hearts.

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😮 😮

So now I’m wondering if that scene in the promo where Regina seems to be putting her hands over the well and sucking the power up, is her giving in to Henry and de-activating the trap they’ve set.

[Slurpeez]

@Phee wrote:

😮 😮 So now I’m wondering if that scene in the promo where Regina seems to be putting her hands over the well and sucking the power up, is her giving in to Henry and de-activating the trap they’ve set.

Could definitely be the case! In the extended promo, it kind of looks to me like Mr. Gold is the one who cast a spell to block the portal, but then it looks like Regina intervenes at Henry’s desperate pleading to save Snow and Emma. Who ever would’ve thought that Regina would save Snow White and Emma from an otherwise certain death?

Sadly, Mr. Gold doesn’t seem to be as easily convinced. He says in the extended promo, “Doesn’t matter who comes through. No one can survive this.” Just when I thought Belle was helping him become a better man. 😐 Also, there is a brief scene of Mr. Gold using a spell in the mines; maybe he is harnessing the power of the newly-discovered magical diamonds in order the block the well portal. Extended promo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-6ZwVkQCCA&feature=player_embedded

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

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@slurpeez108 wrote:

Could definitely be the case! In the extended promo, it kind of looks to me like Mr. Gold is the one who cast a spell to block the portal, but then it looks like Regina intervenes at Henry’s desperate pleading to save Snow and Emma. Who ever would’ve thought that Regina would save Snow White and Emma from an otherwise certain death?

Definitely very ironic.

I probably shouldn’t have watched it though because now I want the impostor theory to happen so badly even though I don’t think it will at least as far as both Cora and Hook impersonating Snow and Emma because I think it gives the situation even more dramatic irony. They will think that Henry was right when “Emma and Snow” come through the portal. There will be much rejoicing because good does in fact triumph over evil, and it will help Regina and Rumple show that they should be more like the Charmings and have faith. Then, cut to the final scene of the episode where they show it’s really Cora and Hook in disguise, and it turns out Regina and Rumple were right all along evil finds a way to defeat good because good has to play fair just like Henry said in “Desperate Souls” after he who shall not be named was murdered.

Sure it could work if Emma and Snow find another way to get through at the same time, but Cora and Hook come out of the portal. This seems unlikely though because Rumple and Regina would just blast them when they came through.

I guess they’re going for the really happy ending though before the break with maybe a tinge of “oh no” if they show Cora and Hook get to Storybrooke by the end of the episode by some other means just when everyone thinks that they’re okay.

Sadly, Mr. Gold doesn’t seem to be as easily convinced. He says in the extended promo, “Doesn’t matter who comes through. No one can survive this.” Just when I thought Belle was helping him become a better man. 😐 Also, there is a brief scene of Mr. Gold using a spell in the mines; maybe he is harnessing the power of the newly-discovered magical diamonds in order the block the well portal. Extended promo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-6ZwVkQCCA&feature=player_embedded

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While I don’t think he’s right in what he’s doing, I can’t completely blame him either because it’s not entirely selfish, necessarily, to want to make sure Cora doesn’t make it to Storybrooke. She’s likely to destroy many people’s lives more than just two, so he probably justifying his decision to do that to Emma and Snow based on that.

[RumplesGirl]

Sadly, Mr. Gold doesn’t seem to be as easily convinced. He says in the extended promo, “Doesn’t matter who comes through. No one can survive this.” Just when I thought Belle was helping him become a better man. Also, there is a brief scene of Mr. Gold using a spell in the mines; maybe he is harnessing the power of the newly-discovered magical diamonds in order the block the well portal

Yeah, I’m not thrilled with that turn of events, like attacking Ruby in a very “Dark One” style. I think he’ll justify it saying he’s doing everything he can to protect Belle but his actions, like so often, are flawed no matter how good his intentions. I really hope he and Regina come together to take down the barrier and it’s not just Regina alone. Maybe Belle will show up like Henry did and persuade Rumple! *a girl can dream*

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

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@RumplesGirl wrote:

Yeah, I’m not thrilled with that turn of events, like attacking Ruby in a very “Dark One” style. I think he’ll justify it saying he’s doing everything he can to protect Belle but his actions, like so often, are flawed no matter how good his intentions. I really hope he and Regina come together to take down the barrier and it’s not just Regina alone. Maybe Belle will show up like Henry did and persuade Rumple! *a girl can dream*

If Rumple doesn’t end up doing tha, just think of it as more angst for Rumple and Bae, if Neal turns out to be Bae. 😀

[midnight dreary]

I think in the end, Mr. Gold and Regina will both relent. The fact that this is the sneak peek that was released means that this is probably from the beginning of the episode. So, something eventually deactivates the portal. Besides, Mr. Gold still needs Emma for that favor. He can’t leave Storybrooke and he’s still searching for Baelfire.

And if I’m not mistaken, Belle is scheduled to be in this episode as well. So, I have a feeling she’ll factor into Mr. Gold’s actions in this episode.

[beautyistruth]

I have a bad feeling the in-show morality in this episode is going to annoy me all break. It’s not unreasonable for Regina and Gold to assume that Cora will be coming through the portal, especially after Charming never woke up from the sleeping curse.It’s not unreasonable to let Snow and Emma die to stop Cora (assuming they aren’t overblowing how dangerous Cora is for some ulterior motive).

But, Emma and Snow are the main characters and I’m pretty sure in-show morality is going to say that you never let the main characters die. The writers justify it as “faith,” which… eh. It’s idealistic, but if anything, I think Rumple and Regina should know more than anything that “good” doesn’t always win, both from the times they’ve been hurt and the times they’ve successfully hurt others. We get the viewer-perspective benefit of knowing that Emma and Snow will make it, because this show’s going to keep going. The characters in the show don’t have that benefit, and they’ve seen good people die or lose.

If Regina sucking out the magic is going to be held up as a “she’s truly changed” moment. I’m going to cringe. All that’s going to show is that she’ll do anything to keep Henry’s affections, which we already know, even if it means temporarily putting him in more danger.

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@beautyistruth wrote:

I have a bad feeling the in-show morality in this episode is going to annoy me all break. It’s not unreasonable for Regina and Gold to assume that Cora will be coming through the portal, especially after Charming never woke up from the sleeping curse.It’s not unreasonable to let Snow and Emma die to stop Cora (assuming they aren’t overblowing how dangerous Cora is for some ulterior motive).

But, Emma and Snow are the main characters and I’m pretty sure in-show morality is going to say that you never let the main characters die. The writers justify it as “faith,” which… eh. It’s idealistic, but if anything, I think Rumple and Regina should know more than anything that “good” doesn’t always win, both from the times they’ve been hurt and the times they’ve successfully hurt others. We get the viewer-perspective benefit of knowing that Emma and Snow will make it, because this show’s going to keep going. The characters in the show don’t have that benefit, and they’ve seen good people die or lose.

If Regina sucking out the magic is going to be held up as a “she’s truly changed” moment. I’m going to cringe. All that’s going to show is that she’ll do anything to keep Henry’s affections, which we already know, even if it means temporarily putting him in more danger.

I know what you mean. That’s why I hope that there’s some kind of twist with who comes through the portal, but I don’t think there will be.

Plus, I don’t know it just feels too early for good to win, even a temporary win, at this point since I haven’t felt like they’ve ever been in any real danger except for the last episode. There was all this talk about Cora being evil, but besides killing Daniel in the first season, we really didn’t get to see that much of her in action until “Into the Deep”. So she didn’t really come across that evil, even though I do believe that she is worse than Regina and Rumple. Likewise, until “Into the Deep” and now the second sneak peek for “Queen of Hearts”, Hook never came off as much of a threat either. The ogres and giant didn’t either, so if they were trying to make present day FTL seem really dangerous for this whole time, it didn’t seem that effective to me. Of course, I want the Charmings to be reunited, but I wish the tension had been ratcheted up more instead of these last two episodes. It was my same complaint about last season where the last four or five episodes were great about ratcheting up the tension and made OUaT definitely must see tv, but in between there can be too much filler.

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Well, and here’s why I think this sneak peek bothers me so much. It’s completely understandable that Henry would feel and think this way. He’s an idealistic child who genuinely believes that good will always win and that blind faith is a good basis for decision-making. That’s realistic and endeering for a child to think, but that hasn’t been shown to be realistic, both in reality and even in the context of the show. Nevertheless, the Charming family gets the special snowflake treatment from the plot quite a bit and I have a bad feeling the writers are going to validate Henry’s view as being the moral one, and the right one. That’s going to make me throw up a little in the mouth.

We don’t know quite how dangerous Cora is, and we don’t know what her overall motivations are other than getting revenge on Regina and Rumple and probably gaining some sort of control. We did, however, see her single-handedly kill every single last survivor in FTL (and possibly the other magical worlds) and reanimate their corpses. And, there seemed to be not a small amount of people in that safe haven. So she’s capable of that, at least. Also, again, assuming that Rumple and Regina are being genuine, they both seem to be pretty desperate to keep Cora back. These are two characters who have spent last season backstabbing each other and being cocky about their own powers and abilities. For them to work together indicates to me that they are pretty seriously worried about Cora getting into Storybrooke.

Also, again, it’s a pretty reasonable assumption for them to make that Cora would beat Snow and Emma. After all, neither of them had too much trouble in the past easily disposing of less powerful, or non-magical people in their way. (Graham, Fairy Godmother, etc). Cora is at least as powerful as they are. Honestly, one of the large reasons why Regina kept failing to permanently separate Snow and Charming was because Rumple needed them to be together for his own purposes and kept interfering with her plans. He’s a large reason why they keep finding each other. Henry’s certainty that Snow and Emma will come out on top is entirely based on an unreliable worldview, and faith. I guess I generally dislike making major decisions affecting large numbers of people on the basis of faith, but your milage may vary on that one. And as for his belief that “good always wins,” which he bases off the curse breaking, as far as I’m concerned, that was not an example of “good” winning. It was an example of Regina not fully understanding her own curse and getting outmaneuvered by Rumple to cast a curse purposefully designed to have a powerful escape clause that he personally made sure to tell Snow and Charming about. If Rumple wanted to create a curse without an escape clause, I’m fairly sure he could have done so. So honestly, at this point, all Regina should know is, “don’t underestimate other powerful people.” Which, incidentally, is exactly what she’s doing in sealing the portal. Again, I know that Henry doesn’t know that. But, if the show writers act like Henry’s view is somehow a reasonable viewpoint for anybody to make large-scale decision on, I’m going to cringe.

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@Midnight Dreary wrote:

I think in the end, Mr. Gold and Regina will both relent. The fact that this is the sneak peek that was released means that this is probably from the beginning of the episode. So, something eventually deactivates the portal. Besides, Mr. Gold still needs Emma for that favor. He can’t leave Storybrooke and he’s still searching for Baelfire.

And if I’m not mistaken, Belle is scheduled to be in this episode as well. So, I have a feeling she’ll factor into Mr. Gold’s actions in this episode.

I agree. This scene is probably from the beginning of the episode, so the portal will probably be deactivated or at the very least, overpowered. I just hope it’s done in a believable way. I’m still not used to Regina being so nice all of a sudden. It comes off as slightly unrealistic.

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