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January 23, 2013 at 4:37 pm #135800eirelandParticipant
Did anyone else think that the flashback were very… WWII Germany ish? Or at least how WWII Germany has been portrayed by the media (i.e. horror movies about genetic experiments)?
Firstly, Whale’s brother was given some kind of honour that looks like a military honour… both he and his father looked very military ish).It doesn’t really work because I believe Whale was brought to FTL in “the doctor” by the hat… (? I don’t really remember) and we know the hat only goes magical world to magical world…. but… there were a lot of similarities.
And then with the name Greg Mendel really being that of a genetics scientist…
[adrotate group="5"]January 23, 2013 at 6:20 pm #169733MyrilParticipantMore like around turn of century, late 19th century, maybe first decade of 20th century, WWI, time of Prussian and Habsburg empires. The 30s and 40s of past century would have a different look.
Was hoping somehow for a touch of Steampunk, although Frankenstein is more gothic stuff, but maybe if we ever get Captain Nemo on the show they will go there. The elevator in the libary looks like something Captain Nemo could have build.Mendel by the way was mid-19th century. And while selective breeding is as old maybe as human society, genetic engineering began in the 1970th. It took some understanding of DNA and RNA to get there. Whatever monsters you see earlier in fiction they’re more products of cross-breeding, magic, unexplained natural phenomenon or not specified scientific tempering with nature.
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January 23, 2013 at 9:06 pm #169760jessistaParticipantYeah I thought WWI also by the look of the brother’s uniform. I may be mistaken, but didn’t “Frankenstein” take place in Austria?
January 23, 2013 at 9:39 pm #169767TheGoldenKeyParticipantWhat they are going for is the old 1930’s and 1940’s gothic horror look. Black and white film, turn of the century costumes as well as German Officer coats (we saw this in the The Doctor with Dr. Frankenstein’s coat). Most stories like Frankenstein or Dracula took place in countries like Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Yugoslavia, Romania, etc. The Wolfman took place in turn of the century Whales.
Personally, I wouldn’t get too hung up on the exact country. Like I said, it’s all about showing us that it’s the story book world of classic horror monsters. It’s another time period, but not in the real world, otherwise Rumple would never have been able to access it. It’s a fantasy world of gothic horror novels and movies.
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January 24, 2013 at 2:22 am #169825MyrilParticipant@jessista wrote:
Yeah I thought WWI also by the look of the brother’s uniform. I may be mistaken, but didn’t “Frankenstein” take place in Austria?
Nope, in Switzerland and Germany, Scotland and near to the North Pole.
@TheGoldenKey wrote:
What they are going for is the old 1930’s and 1940’s gothic horror look. Black and white film, turn of the century costumes as well as German Officer coats (we saw this in the The Doctor with Dr. Frankenstein’s coat). Most stories like Frankenstein or Dracula took place in countries like Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Yugoslavia, Romania, etc. The Wolfman took place in turn of the century Whales.
Personally, I wouldn’t get too hung up on the exact country. Like I said, it’s all about showing us that it’s the story book world of classic horror monsters. It’s another time period, in the real world, otherwise Rumple would never have been able to access it. It’s a fantasy world of gothic horror novels and movies.
Agreed, it’s not so important exactly which country. It’s a world mimicking a fictional genre and how it was envisioned at some point.
Nevertheless find it interesting that they deviate from classic Frankenstein here and put the Frankensteins in a fictional Austria. Not important but interesting. Can’t help it. :geek:
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January 24, 2013 at 2:30 am #169826TheGoldenKeyParticipant@myril wrote:
@jessista wrote:
Yeah I thought WWI also by the look of the brother’s uniform. I may be mistaken, but didn’t “Frankenstein” take place in Austria?
Nope, in Switzerland and Germany, Scotland and near to the North Pole.
@TheGoldenKey wrote:
What they are going for is the old 1930’s and 1940’s gothic horror look. Black and white film, turn of the century costumes as well as German Officer coats (we saw this in the The Doctor with Dr. Frankenstein’s coat). Most stories like Frankenstein or Dracula took place in countries like Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Yugoslavia, Romania, etc. The Wolfman took place in turn of the century Whales.
Personally, I wouldn’t get too hung up on the exact country. Like I said, it’s all about showing us that it’s the story book world of classic horror monsters. It’s another time period, in the real world, otherwise Rumple would never have been able to access it. It’s a fantasy world of gothic horror novels and movies.
Agreed, it’s not so important exactly which country. It’s a world mimicking a fictional genre and how it was envisioned at some point.
Nevertheless find it interesting that they deviate from classic Frankenstein here and put the Frankensteins in a fictional Austria. Not important but interesting. Can’t help it. :geek:
Have to agree with you on that last point. I have to say that I’m very impressed by your knowledge of Prussia’s history. If anything, all of this Frankenstein stuff will get many people to open up the web (or books), do a little research and learn some interesting facts. Good stuff all the way around. 🙂
Keeper of Pandora's Box & The Yellow Brick Road.
January 24, 2013 at 2:32 am #169827TheGoldenKeyParticipant@TheGoldenKey wrote:
@myril wrote:
@jessista wrote:
Yeah I thought WWI also by the look of the brother’s uniform. I may be mistaken, but didn’t “Frankenstein” take place in Austria?
Nope, in Switzerland and Germany, Scotland and near to the North Pole.
@TheGoldenKey wrote:
What they are going for is the old 1930’s and 1940’s gothic horror look. Black and white film, turn of the century costumes as well as German Officer coats (we saw this in the The Doctor with Dr. Frankenstein’s coat). Most stories like Frankenstein or Dracula took place in countries like Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Yugoslavia, Romania, etc. The Wolfman took place in turn of the century Whales.
Personally, I wouldn’t get too hung up on the exact country. Like I said, it’s all about showing us that it’s the story book world of classic horror monsters. It’s another time period, in the real world, otherwise Rumple would never have been able to access it. It’s a fantasy world of gothic horror novels and movies.
Agreed, it’s not so important exactly which country. It’s a world mimicking a fictional genre and how it was envisioned at some point.
Nevertheless find it interesting that they deviate from classic Frankenstein here and put the Frankensteins in a fictional Austria. Not important but interesting. Can’t help it. :geek:
Have to agree with you on that last point. I have to say that I’m very impressed by your knowledge of Prussia’s history. If anything, all of this Frankenstein stuff will get many people to open up the web (or books), do a little research and learn some interesting facts. Good stuff all the way around. 🙂
PS Meant to say in my original post that it’s another time perirod BUT NOT in the real world.
Keeper of Pandora's Box & The Yellow Brick Road.
January 24, 2013 at 8:34 am #169852PheeParticipantIt’s sort of…what’s the word…disconcerting, perhaps…seeing the Frankenworld styled so similarly to something that has a real world feel. It’s weird though, because I’ve never felt that way about FTL, even though that’s styled on times past in our world as well, and they all freaking speak English. But then they show legit German writing in Frankenworld and it throws me off, because it feels like they’re trying to replicate a real world culture. It shouldn’t throw me off, because like I said, it’s no different to what they’ve done previously, I’m just sayin’, it messed with my head for a moment there with the German and the Christmas tree and the real world-esque military uniforms and whatnot. 😆
January 27, 2013 at 11:29 am #170203swanning-offParticipantI think it’s a red herring, designed to make us all wonder whether Whale/Frankenstein is from our world but the past.
January 27, 2013 at 1:19 pm #170207mich7ParticipantThey kind of pointed out it wasn’t our world when Rumple said that Whale’s world had witchcraft…it had a form of magic but it was weak in comparison to the magic from FTL. I believe on the podcast the writers even said that one of the reasons that Whale’s father harbored such ill will toward Whale was that he thought that Whale was dabbling in witchcraft by trying to bring back the dead. I don’t guess he got the science concept.
I guess it is just a parallel world with minor magic.
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