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OK, I’ve been looking at the preview gallery pics at:
http://beta.abc.go.com/shows/once-upon-a-time/photos/sneak-peeks/sneak-peek-119/_m_sneak-peek-119a
I’ve noticed some possible references that may indicate August’s identity – or a ruse to throw us off. If the pics are what I think they are, my theory August could be The White Knight aka Lewis Carroll may be out of the running. Grrrrrr. Oh, well, roll with the punches…
Please, view the pics, if you have not already done so. Then, come back to this post and see if we see the same things. I believe the pics are quite telling. I’ll try to describe it without spoiling too much of the fun.
The link should get you to the gallery on the ABC OUAT page. The setting is Mr. Gold’s shop and the props are telling us a story.
In one pic, August is entering the shop. Notice the lamps. Most do not have bulbs but one lamp has a bulb that is off and another lamp, above it, the bulb is on. Also, notice the nice trail the lamp cords make to…a certain musical instrument. It’s quite obvious. If that’s not enough, look at any of the lamps without bulbs. There is a shape created in the negative space by the metal support frame that would normally hold a lamp shade. In fact, imagine holding a bulb in your hand and what else might you make of it?
Another pic in the gallery series shows August in front of a painting. The painting looks as though it might be of an ocean scene but it is obscured by…two lamps without bulbs and what looks like a tattered banjo case. Interesting repetition of shapes, eh? It’s also interesting the “neck” end of the case points to August. Notice also, behind Mr. Gold, the sailboat with its mast pointing to a globe pointing more towards the ocean than the land. The sail boat can be seen more clearly in a different pic and on the shelf above that are some suspect figurines but they are out of focus.
Then, another pic, a close-up of August, seems to mix up the clues a bit. Notice the old-style oil cans on the shelf? Also, there is a figurine of what looks like an asian doll. It’s brightly lit by the lamp above and slightly out-of-focus so I can’t determine if the arms are a part of the figurine or separate…but attached.
There is also what seems to be an old printer’s press in the shop. There are lots of other props but these were the most identifiable upon first viewing. I thought it worth passing along to see what others think about it.
Again, the link:
http://beta.abc.go.com/shows/once-upon-a-time/photos/sneak-peeks/sneak-peek-119/_m_sneak-peek-119aLike the hand gestures, shadows and beams of light leading the viewer to details in the painting, “The Last Supper,” there seems to be a visual story being told by the props in Mr. Gold’s shop.
Curiouser and curiouser….then, it is a Curios Shop, right? So, let’s shop.
[adrotate group="5"]Well, I’ve got a few ideas on August. The visuals in the image are pointing to Pinocchio and the upcoming backstory may tie August, the ocean, the boat and the light bulb shape together. However, August as Pinocchio is not my favorite resolve on the identity. It could be, August just happens to be in the shop and all the props, only there in relation to the backstory. I do believe important clues to FTL come through the shop, as the Storybrooke folk have no memory of what they might be pawning thus allowing Mr. Gold some insight on how well the curse is holding. I’ve not looked to see if Gold’s shop is consistent throughout the series as sort of a looking glass of what’s to come or as a subtext device to the current backstory. I mentioned the oil cans also in the gallery pics and that could be saying a Tin Woodsman story may be coming and then, of course, there was that printing press. So, who knows?
As for August…
Recently, I’ve been running with August as The White Knight, due to his name breakdown to clues that lead to Lewis Carol and The White Knight. August does ride a motorcycle/horse and has “come to the aid of a damsel in distress.” He also wear lots of black and that seems like a reverse clue, perhaps. I’ve also thought he may be the author of the book as something of the Royal Writer and more lofty thoughts he may be something more cosmic and spiritual like, a combination of a Grand Knight Templar and Master Archivist/Librarian sworn to protect and mend all the stories ever told. Look for my August = White Knight aka Lewis Carroll thread, if you want more on all that.I haven’t yet been convinced on the Bae, Grimm Brother or Henry’s father connections, although any of them are plausible. I’m not fully convinced on Pinocchio but I might like it if August is something related, like The Conscience Jiminy Cricket was to Pinocchio, August is to Emma. Perhaps, Pinocchio’s Conscience was separated from Pinocchio so he could be transformed back into wood – or The Book – and sent with Emma in the Wardrobe. If he is somehow a descendent or relative of Geppetto , that gets complicated due to the current story line and/or the curse, I think.
Who do you think August is?
The images suggest Bae, but then again, if you've watched the latest trailer for the last few episodes, they say everyone remembers. Someone said it might be a dream. And I think I agree, one of the nightmares she has between episodes 20 and 21? They could be trying to trick us here as well. So Pinnocchio’s body is the book? But the book wouldn’t enter the wardrobe, it was still in Storybrooke. It was with Mary Margeret. Someone once said Pinnocchio could be the wardrobe. Maybe Pinnocchio gave it more power so that it could hold 2, but it wasn’t enough. Pinnocchio’s body got trapped in the book, which could only stay with who it was closest to. His conscience goes where? His original body, I’m thinking (or hoping). Because there are only 2 possible options for Bae, I think. Either Bae is someone in Storybrooke, or, because they have to give him a good send-off, Rumplestiltskin murders him.
@mujie wrote:
The images suggest Bae, but then again, if you've watched the latest trailer for the last few episodes, they say everyone remembers. Someone said it might be a dream. And I think I agree, one of the nightmares she has between episodes 20 and 21? They could be trying to trick us here as well.
I’m not sure how you are getting Bae out of the visual clues of an ocean, a boat, the accordian and the light bulb shape and the tattered banjo case shape a puppet head shape but I saw them as clues to suggest the story and character of Pinocchio.
UPDATE: I just went to the abc site and the preview gallery had been updated from the ones with Gold and August to the pics of Rumple and Bae. Maybe, the pics will appear in the general gallery later but now I see why you might only be seeing Bae.
@mujie wrote:
So Pinocchio’s body is the book? But the book wouldn’t enter the wardrobe, it was still in Storybrooke. It was with Mary Margeret. Someone once said Pinnocchio could be the wardrobe. Maybe Pinnocchio gave it more power so that it could hold 2, but it wasn’t enough. Pinnocchio’s body got trapped in the book, which could only stay with who it was closest to. His conscience goes where? His original body, I’m thinking (or hoping).
Yeah, I still sort of like Pinocchio as the book – or even, the tree by the well (wishing well?). I’m thinking he’s inanimate but his Conscience is out there, somewhere, guiding efforts to restore FTL. If FTL is underneath Storybrooke, the source of the water will probably be tied to the same magical waters of Lake Nostros that changed Frederick back from a gold statue into flesh and blood – much like Pinocchio turned from a wood statue to a real boy. This would give more insight on the tree image that appears on many things in Storybrooke and a terrific parallel.
As of The Return episode, we’ve discovered Rumple says August is not Bae and August claims he is dying of something and seems to call Emma – or someone – the Savior. So, if August is not Bae, then that leaves his identity and purpose wide open. Rumple asks August “Why the theatrics?” and that may be a veiled hint/ruse at an identity that performed or used theatrics, “smoke and mirrors” in his/her previous life.
I still like my original line of thinking August is The White Knight and now, If August believes Emma – or someone – is a savior, he may be on some holy mission, like a Knight of the Round Table seeking the Holy Grail (Emma?). This is one reason I liked The White Knight parallel – it paired Wonderland and Camelot and this/our world’s history with the story unfolding in OUAT. Perhaps, the FTL Book is something of a religious tome and the stories much like the parables and legends of any religion. August’s faith is the in stories and of a savior that will fulfill a prophecy. If his jewelry isn’t from FTL, it could simply be talismans or totems he picked up along his own quest that empower his belief. I’m uncertain if he was tampering with the book or if he was healing it, like Rumple poured the medicinals on Bae’s wound. If August saw the book as something spiritual, he might also consider it as sacrilege to alter it. If he was healing it, it might be a living thing somehow. Again, not sure.If not Pinocchio, the book still has no source or identity but if Mary Margaret had it when Storybrooke came crashing down on FTL, then, that may mean Snow White had it beforehand.
My thoughts on that, are:
– The book is just a book but magically compiled
– The writer of the book was the Genie/Man in the Mirror, who could see into FTL through any mirror or reflective surface like, water, perhaps. His alt is Sidney Glass, editor of The Mirror. The emblem on the back of the book may be a clue. To me, it looks like a mirror frame.
– I believe for Emma to open her power, she must open her mind and heart and know the stories of the book are real. In the beginning, she wished upon a (blue) star and her journey began. She has to believe she is the story in order for her to move to the next square on the chess board.Right now, so much is moving towards August being Pinocchio and the way the previews for The Stranger are edited, we are being led to believe August could be Pinocchio. However, things are not as always as they seem. Especially, in OUAT. Plus, The Stranger may not be August at all but a reference to something/someone else. So, I’m still not fully convinced he is Pinocchio. He does know about the Dark One, the Curse and the cursed knife and when Rumple asks, how does he know, he said, “a little fairy told me” but that could have been just to annoy Rumple. Rumple killed the mute maid and Bae was probably the only person Rumple ever showed it to but I suppose a fairy might know something of the dagger. It was also odd when August said, “I was going to get the savior to believe – but that woman – I don’t think I’m going to live long enough to get to see that happen” I can’t help but wonder if he is referring to two people – the savior and “that woman.” Hmm.
Another interesting incident of editing to lead us in a different direction, was after August tumbled out of bed, he made phone call and said, “Hey, you there? Good. This is taking too long, we need to accelerate the plan.” The next scene was with Henry, outside Gold’s Pawnshop. Looking back on that scene, August made the call on a very odd metallic looking rotary dial phone – with a green handset. It seemed he only dialed two numbers. At first, I immediately thought OZ but there is no Z on a standard phone although Zero begins with Z but then, letters/numbers might no matter because whatever he dialed, he wasn’t calling a regular 7 digit number or long distance to Kansas, for sure. Perhaps, someone else has a room at the Inn. So, I have to wonder,who and where did August really call?
Also of note, the Toto-looking paperweight on top of the stack of pages that was later revealed when Mr. Gold went snooping and found the image of the dagger. I am starting to believe August was given the image of the dagger because if he were Bael, he would have known what it looked like. So, why bother having such a neatly drawn image of it and where did he get it? August may not be from FTL at all but is in cahoots with someone who has clear understanding of the dagger and FTL. Rumple said to August, “You’re from there, aren’t you? You’re from MY world. I have to wonder if Rumple was a FTL transplant from another place. In flashback, Rumple asks the Blue Fairy if there is another way to get to the world Bae went to “Realm Jumper, Time-Traveler, Mage…Curse?” The Blue Fairy responds. “of course you would think of a curse instead of a blessing, as your magic is limited by your own rotten core….such a curse is beyond your abiilty” REALM JUMPERS, TIME TRAVELERS and A MAGE? Interesting. He’s asking, so, that means they must exist. Also, if Blue Fairy can’t lie, to enact the Curse, Rumple must have had to make some more deals to increase his ability. Cross-World military deals via a Realm Jumper or through a Looking Glass portal? Wow, the possibilities!Rumple spared August on the notion he may be of some use if he gets this savior to believe. So, Rumple seems to now be using the Knight to get the Queens (Emma?/Regina) to duke it out and probably hoping Emma takes down Regina thus capturing the Queen. Only problem is, Princess Emma isn’t officially a Queen. So, it might all backfire unless, MM/Snow does the deed. It might break the curse or curse the one that strikes the blow. That’s what got Rumple in his nasty spot. Rumple knows what he’s doing, it seems.
Now, I have to wonder about the OZ references. Some have said August is the Wizard but that seems too much. Although, the fake wizard (Oscar Zoroaster Phadrig Isaac Norman Henkel Emmannuel Ambroise Diggs), was known to be “theatrical” as a fortune teller at County Fairs and trying to convince everyone in Oz he had “great and terrible” powers when, in truth, he was a bit of a humbug, fakir and charlatan, I am thrown off by his strange ailment. There’s a clue in it and yes, that could point back to Pinocchio ala August’s “shin splints” but again, other identities may also have reason to have a debilitating ailment. In Gold’s shop, August seemed to be lingering next to some oil cans on a shelf and reaching out for a shoe “shine” box just below – just as Gold walked in. Maybe, August is The Tin Man (which still kind of gets us The Knight in shining armor, right?) The ailment could be a seizing up – or rusting – of muscles. The medical definition of shin splints is VERY interesting read, btw. So, I’m not sold on either Wizard or Pinocchio yet. I’m sticking with the book or the tree for now for Pin…and still holding onto The White Knight -maybe-made-of-tin- sort of thing.
We’re also stuck without knowing where – or to what timeline – Bae went. We only know it’s “somewhere without any magic.” Kansas, anyone? I used to live in Kansas. It’s lovely but I can assure you, no magic there.
Also, “Zoso” was on the dagger before Rumple’s name was. Look up Zardoz, and you’ll understand how OScar ZOroaster might enter into all this. It’s a bit of a stretch but worth considering as inspiration for the plot. There is a whole lot of World-bending going on in OUAT
Sorry for being so long on posts but I’ve only got so much time to keep up with OUAT theories and when they come to me, I just have to run with it.
@hjbau wrote:
Maybe August is Eric, Ariel’s prince.
Ewwww I REALLLY like this theory…here is to hoping that he is someone other than Pinocchio…
@hjbau wrote:
Maybe August is Eric, Ariel’s prince.
OMG!!! I really really REALLY like this theory! That might explain why his leg was shaking. Maybe his legs were turning back into fins. Maybe in OUAT’s version of the story, it was Eric who chose to become a mermaid, instead of Ariel choosing to become human. Maybe it was Eric who decided to make the sacrifice. It would also explain his facsination with water.
Dang it, Heather! Now, I really want this to happen. I’m actually going to be upset if it doesn’t. 😥
Sorry. I just thought it while i was sleeping. Something about the look in his eyes made me think about the cartoon Eric. There is like a scene where he turns and sees Ariel. I have seen the Little Mermaid a ton of times. It was one of the ones we watched a lot when we were kids. And i don’t want him to be Pinocchio so i keep throwing out all the theories in the hope that one sticks. And Ariel was mentioned in passing. I do think it is unlikely that Eric will be introduced before Ariel and it doesn’t really fit the plot, but i thought i’d throw it out there.
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