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Gold's Memories

Home › Forums › Once Upon a Time › Season Three › 3×09 “Save Henry” › Gold's Memories

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  • December 1, 2013 at 11:49 pm #227365
    RumplesGirl
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    Adam and Eddy established long ago that Mr. Gold awoke only after he heard Emma say her name in the Pilot episode, while they were at Granny’s.

    Yet tonight it felt like in both scenes between Gold and Regina, he had his memories of who he was. He spoke of children and how you have to put them first, no matter the cost, as if he was speaking of personal experiences. And in the second Regina/Gold meeting he seemed much more Rumple than Gold

    Do you think Gold knew who he was before Emma came to town? Or did Regina give him false memories of a lost child and that’s why Gold knew about parenting and the things parents will do.

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    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    December 1, 2013 at 11:55 pm #227366
    once_dude
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    I am a firm believer in the fact that Gold had memories of a son who had left him. It makes sense to have the characters’ pasts in SB resemble their real pasts as much as possible. (granted this was otn so for  Mary Margaret and dAvid but I am ignoring that. Gold” wrote the curse so couldn’t he have written some of the characters including himself? I don’t know just throwing ideas around.

    Magic always comes with a price, so I pay with visa.

    December 2, 2013 at 12:06 am #227371
    Phee
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    I was worried they were trying to retcon him having had his memories, but I think they were just playing Rumple a bit ambiguously as a means to build up Regina’s frustration to breaking point, where she realised she was really on her own in this, because he didn’t know what she was ranting about.

    December 2, 2013 at 12:15 am #227377
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    In the second meeting when Regina looses her cool, Gold even says “my memory isn’t what it used to be.” Like they were deliberately leading us to believe that Gold had his memories. The way he acts..the first time we saw Mr. Gold (in Welcome to Storybrooke) he was actually very clueless, really had no idea what Regina was talking about. But this time he acts like he is goading her, knows what she is saying and is delighting in trying to get around her.

    I honestly thought they were retconning him and was *super irked*

    I do think that Gold might have had a son in his Cursed Memories. It would explain a lot.

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    December 2, 2013 at 12:33 am #227384
    angiebelle
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    I don’t think they were retconning at all.  It wouldn’t make sense when the fact that he had a curse personality was a major plot point last season.  I think Cursed!Gold just has a similar relationship to Regina as Rumple.  He can still be goading her and enjoying it without being fully aware of what’s going on.

    December 2, 2013 at 12:36 am #227388
    Josephine
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    I think maybe Gold had a lost son in his false memories.  I’m still going with he didn’t get his memories back at all until he heard Emma’s name.

    We were talking in chat and wondering about him seeing Emma’s name on the paperwork about Baby Henry and I’ve come to one of two conclusions about that:

    1. Gold needed to hear Emma’s name from her own lips.
    2. Regina’s potion about taking away her worries took away Sydney’s detective work and Rumple seeing that name on those papers, erasing all past knowledge of Henry’s birth mother from Storybrooke.

    I wonder if Adam will ever give us the correct answer.

     

     

    Keeper of Rumplestiltskin's and Neal's spears and war paint and crystal ball.

    December 2, 2013 at 12:39 am #227389
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    Gold needed to hear Emma’s name from her own lips.

    Hearing it makes the most sense. But maybe reading it on paper did trigger…something.

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    December 2, 2013 at 7:14 am #227422
    timespacer
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    I just assumed that the curse gave Mr. Gold personality traits and a backstory that were similar to those of Rumple.

    December 2, 2013 at 7:18 am #227424
    PriceofMagic
    Participant

    I agree, the curse didn’t dramatically change everyone but it took away people’s best personality trait.

    All magic comes with a price!

    Keeper of Felix
    December 2, 2013 at 8:17 am #227435
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    I agree, the curse didn’t dramatically change everyone but it took away people’s best personality trait.

    So maybe Mr Gold lost a son but had no interest in finding him. If Rumple’s best trait is his devotion to his son, then Gold woulnd’t really care if his son had gone missing.

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
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