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Oh man. Are we putting money on if PP had something to do with PapaHook leaving Killian?
I wager a dozen cookies that PP is behind it, because he somehow foresaw that Hook would be instrumental in getting Milha to abandon Baelfire and Rumple.
[adrotate group="5"]"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
RumplesGirl wrote: Oh man. Are we putting money on if PP had something to do with PapaHook leaving Killian?
I wager a dozen cookies that PP is behind it, because he somehow foresaw that Hook would be instrumental in getting Milha to abandon Baelfire and Rumple.
I see your dozen cookies and raise you a Jolly Roger.
Gah. Wicked wicked little boy
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"I posted this in another thread but I think the relationship between Bae and Hook is going to become a bit clearer after this episode when we see Hook and his brother Liam.
I think Hook sees a lot of himself in Bae–young boy abandoned by his papa and all alone in the world. But Hook had someone else. He had his brother, Liam. So Hook sees Bae not only as a step-son-ish sorta but also a chance to be someone’s Liam. He can do for Bae what Liam did for Hook.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"This is Devin
Looks like the kid in the sneak peek we saw this morning.
Also, no Tinkerbell this episode.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"So excited this is finally out!
Interesting that it’s the brother but that could actually be really awesome because we’ll see the brothers on a mission and Captain Charming on a mission too (I really love their interaction, even though Hook wasn’t fairing too well last night without Charming’s help. Poor thing! He was trying so hard and Charming kept pushing him out of the way).
Hook knows what this plant looks like. He may never have found it or he did but not in NL and he truly believes Charming won’t make it out alive because it’s not here or he doesn’t believe it really exists (could have been a trick from Pan and we know his mindgames)…so who knows. He may not want to get Charming’s hopes up only to say guess it didn’t exist after all.
So they go on the mission to do something useful ie: read the map and they continue their conversations and bonding! We saw Hook tell Charming that while reality and hope are often in different worlds, the one thing he has learned from “you hero types” is that “there’s always hope” so I think while they’re off on this adventure when Charming is getting close to dying (which grr, nobody else knows about yet),when things get really really bad, just when they’re about to give up all realistic hope…Hook will spot the elusive flower he couldn’t find the first time and it will save him.
Charming’s not looking too good right now so not sure how much further they’ll stretch it but I could see them doing a callback to last night’s conversation right about the time that they find the flower that can help. Hook will probably gape at it and think he’s imagining things/wishful thinking and then Charming can do the callback to “There’s always hope” which USED to be kinda his thing every time Snow got down. It’s sad to watch him suffer like this! I’m all for Captain Charming bonding though. It’s hilarious & adorable.
I’m torn on this only because I agree I thought they were going to spread it out a bit more so it may not happen in this episode, they may only find the thing to read the map, but I do think that Hook will find the plant in NL and it will surprise him but save the day.
It WAS curious how Hook knew to go to NL for time to stop so he’d have enough time to plot his revenge. I thought that was weird as well so figured he went there as a boy but he may have heard of it from PP or he & his brother may have had to go there to look for the plant or something. Either way I don’t think it looks good for Liam and maybe Hook thinks it was all a trick and that the flower doesn’t exist if he never found it. I agree that he may be more worried about Charming because he’s watched it happen before.
If he gave up hope thinking the plant existed, even within NL, not finding it after all this time, never randomly coming across it, and certainly not finding it in time to save his brother, all he knows is what happened to the last guy and he’s sympathetic to him. He doesn’t want to get anyone’s hopes up like his were though if he never found it and Charming probably wouldn’t agree to a jungle search for a plant when they need to go get Henry anyway. I fully expect them to come across it when everything looks bleak and it’ll be a good have a little faith moment with the “there’s always hope” stuff.
So many things with this episode I didn’t even think to expect! Flying ships, Killian’s brother (man we were way off – wonder how young we’ll actually see Killian here since it doesn’t look like we’ll get his childhood or family much except for Liam. Perhaps that’ll be another time, like with Emma where we haven’t seen her time in the foster system, just as a baby through the wardrobe and then at 17 meeting Neal), and Peter Pan having history with him all the way back then. I think it’s safe to say that Liam will be in big trouble and that PP got to Killian and shaped his life too though. Was not expecting him to pop up in that timeline but it shouldn’t have been that surprising I guess.
Also uh, uniform, ponytail,and Captain Charming side adventure! All very good and yay for knowing of existence of a plant that can save Charming. Hopefully that will calm some fears. They wouldn’t show it to us for no reason.
Pan said that everyone is exactly where he wanted them and now we know he had something to do with Hook’s life as well and that caused Hook to be where he is today. Makes sense, everything right now seems to go back to him including every person who should have been dead centuries ago. Still, wonder what he has in mind for them if they’re all exactly where he wants them. WHAT ARE YOU UP TO PETER??
It says they’re in FTL but I wonder which realm and which king they serve and how Devin fits into everything. Interesting! Can’t wait!
Keeper of Hook's Trenchcoat.
Does anyone have any idea when Killian’s backstory takes place in comparison to Rumple’s. Is it during the war when Rumple’s off fighting? Which would put Hook’s first adventure in NL about 7 years before he met Milah? I think he needs time to establish himself a pirate, right?
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Does anyone have any idea when Killian’s backstory takes place in comparison to Rumple’s. Is it during the war when Rumple’s off fighting? Which would put Hook’s first adventure in NL about 7 years before he met Milah? I think he needs time to establish himself a pirate, right?
I agree. By the time Hook met Milha, I got the feeling that he’d been a pirate captain for several years. I think he’d already sailed to many exotic locations, and his stories of his adventures were part of his appeal to Milha, who had a severe case of wanderlust.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
With the deadly Dreamshade coursing through David’s body and close to death, Hook takes him on one last journey to find a sextant that could help them decipher a map that would lead them off Neverland
I just realized something. Present day NL has nothing to do with the plant. According to this synopsis, CaptainCharming are looking for a way to decipher the map in order to leave NL. No mention of magical plant to cure David. Does this mean the plant doesn’t really exist? Or that it was already used by Liam?
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
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