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As Phee observed, K&H have at times given slightly different wordings of the the statement that Henry was affected by the curse. After listening to the most recent episode of the official podcast, I agree that it sounds as if they meant the curse prevented him from realizing time was frozen until he got the book, but I think there is still room for a little ambiguity and they may be trying to avoid saying too much about details to be revealed in a future episode.
Even though some of their comments might contradict this interpretation, I still like the idea that Henry was only indirectly affected by the curse, in the sense that he grew up surrounded by it and not initially questioning it. As Adam said, a five year old wouldn’t notice that time was frozen. But I like to think that once he started school, he would notice that he was the only kid who grew and moved on to a new grade each year – and that realization was what originally fuelled his conflicts with Regina. After all, we learned in “The Thing You Love Most” that Henry had been having problems with Regina for years before he got the book. In this interpretation, the book just served to identify Regina as the Evil Queen and give Henry an explanation for why time was frozen in Storybrooke, so it could be said to bring him out of the haze in that sense.
Of course, it could certainly be the case that the other interpretation is the correct one and the curse literally prevented him from seeing that time was frozen until he got the book. I just don’t like that interpretation because it eliminates the years of dramatic conflict between Regina and Henry. It requires the rupture in their relationship to be compressed into the month between the time he received the book and when he left to find Emma. That’s an awfully sudden change for Henry to deal with.
Unfortunately, they won’t be able to show us much of this in a flashback since Jared Gilmore has already grown too much to play ten year old Henry again, let alone an eight year old Henry. But maybe we will at least get some discussions of it in the show.
[adrotate group="5"]Of course, it could certainly be the case that the other interpretation is the correct one and the curse literally prevented him from seeing that time was frozen until he got the book. I just don’t like that interpretation because it eliminates the years of dramatic conflict between Regina and Henry. It requires the rupture in their relationship to be compressed into the month between the time he received the book and when he left to find Emma. That’s an awfully sudden change for Henry to deal with.
Yea, I have to agree with that but remember Emma asked the Cricket if Henry was acting out before the book and he was way before he got the book. Come on they all watched tv, and had the internet so I am sure Henry figured out something was wrong way before he was 10 years old. And you are right now he is too old to be used in flashbacks which is too bad that would have been nice to see how and when Henry was putting two and two together.
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Of course, it could certainly be the case that the other interpretation is the correct one and the curse literally prevented him from seeing that time was frozen until he got the book. I just don’t like that interpretation because it eliminates the years of dramatic conflict between Regina and Henry. It requires the rupture in their relationship to be compressed into the month between the time he received the book and when he left to find Emma. That’s an awfully sudden change for Henry to deal with.
Yea, I have to agree with that but remember Emma asked the Cricket if Henry was acting out before the book and he was way before he got the book. Come on they all watched tv, and had the internet so I am sure Henry figured out something was wrong way before he was 10 years old. And you are right now he is too old to be used in flashbacks which is too bad that would have been nice to see how and when Henry was putting two and two together.
Yes, but the argument that he was directly affected by the curse would imply that the curse would prevent him from figuring out that something was wrong, despite the clues. But as I said, I don’t like that argument because if Henry hadn’t noticed time was frozen then some other explanation is required to explain his conflicts with Regina and his need for therapy before he got the book.
Perhaps the “hole” inside Regina which Maleficent warned her about could have been the source of her original conflicts with Henry, but I don’t like that interpretation because it makes their conflict something that would have been a permanent part of their relationship, from the time Henry arrived in Storybrooke to the end of the first season, instead of a change brought about by his awareness of time. And change is almost always a more powerful dramatic element than constancy.
What I don’t understand is why did she want 18 years latter to get Henry, when she was happy with Greg as a child when she just met him.
Also, she wasn’t happy after she did the curse either as she was refered to Dr Hopper per Mr. Gold, and now she thinks she will be happy again without anyone else but Henry.
Regina already knows what’s wrong with herself–she never learns from her mistakes.
To greater or lesser degrees, sometimes we know we need to do better things for others, for ourselves and we just…don’t. It doesn’t even have to be the “drug” metaphor for magic, but plenty of people out there (me included) make the same mistakes day after day….like say eating too many cookies. Especially during a hiatus 😆I am not sure why it took her 18 years–but perhaps she tried and Henry was the first baby that Mr. Gold could procure? Hard to say–I do hope they cover it somehow.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
The curse probably complicated things. Owen was only available because he was in the town borders when the curse was cast. As soon as he left, he couldn’t see it till the curse broke 28 years later, and quite possibly couldn’t enter.
It’s clear that neither Regina nor Gold (who at the time was only his cursed self anyway) knew why, but Henry may well have been the only child who COULD have been shipped into SB, because his parents were from FTL. Emma, August, and Neal all could have entered SB (Neal apparently never did) at any time, and leave and come back just fine because they were uncursed but from FTL. Other people maybe not.
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It’s clear that neither Regina nor Gold (who at the time was only his cursed self anyway) knew why, but Henry may well have been the only child who COULD have been shipped into SB, because his parents were from FTL. Emma, August, and Neal all could have entered SB (Neal apparently never did) at any time, and leave and come back just fine because they were uncursed but from FTL. Other people maybe not.
There’s that fate again, raising her ugly head. Someone or something made sure it was Henry who came to SB when Regina wanted a child.
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It’s clear that neither Regina nor Gold (who at the time was only his cursed self anyway) knew why, but Henry may well have been the only child who COULD have been shipped into SB, because his parents were from FTL. Emma, August, and Neal all could have entered SB (Neal apparently never did) at any time, and leave and come back just fine because they were uncursed but from FTL. Other people maybe not.
There’s that fate again, raising her ugly head. Someone or something made sure it was Henry who came to SB when Regina wanted a child.
I was 200% sure that it was Blue’s doing. Then they had to go and shatter the theory by saying that Mother Superior didn’t remember. GAH! 😡
Maybe it really just is straight up fate, and there wasn’t a need for any manipulation of the situation by anyone. Maybe it was just the same invisible force that drew FTL kids Emma and Nealfire together that also drew Henry and SB together. Maybe there was something built into the curse that was like a magnetic force to draw the Saviour in when she was meant to arrive, and that had a pull on Henry too, either because of his FTL origin genetics, or because he was actually a necessary tool to be used in pulling in the Saviour when the time came. Maybe this will drive me insane if we don’t get answers early on in season 3.
Even if it is fate, why was Regina not suspicious that 18 years pass before suddenly Gold has a baby? Adoption can take awhile but 18 years? Perhaps she was really picky –has to be a baby, boy, brown hair etc. I could see her giving Gold a list of demands.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
What if she tried to adopt several times but because of “fate” the adoption process never went through. Gold could never get Regina a baby because “fate” kept stepping in or because SB doesn’t technically exist and therefore no baby could come to SB. But then somehow after 18 years “fate” finally allowed for it to happen.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
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