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I have a mixtures of thoughts and feelings but need coffee to process it!
I think there are some things I have problems with, some things I enjoyed, and other things that just bothered me.
[adrotate group="5"]"I will be kind but I will speak my mind."
I enjoyed episode 2 way more than episode 1. I liked the dynamic between Fish and Penguin. I like that Gordon can be a kickbutt and not have to worry about being a cop right now. Ivy is whatever. So cliche. I love the villain but I hope she’s not flat in this show. I liked the interaction between the Court of Owls and Bruce. Overall, not a bad episode. Oh and crazy Barbara continues to be amazing. No Nygma though 🙁
Okay. Finally got to sit down and watch this week’s episode
General: This episode was more enjoyable than episode 1, I agree. I like that so many of the characters are working in the same arc–Baby!Batman is sort of off on his own adventure, but it connects back to the Mad Villains storyline vis a vis the Court of Owls. The scenes feel like they are working together instead of shifting so dramatically. My biggest complaint is with Ivy.
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—Props to David Mazouz for the opening scene with Catherine. Usually “Baby!Batman is in danger!” scenes annoy me because nothing is going to happen to him, as we all well know, and so the stakes are never really there but this scene was more like a chess game than putting him in mortal danger.
–Mulan and Jim have more chemistry together than Jim ever had with Lee or Barbara.
–“Turns out I’m perfectly sane!” Thank GOD they went the crazy route with Barbara. It may be loony, over the top and full of scene chewing but lord on high, it’s fun.
–B.D Wong is such a versatile actor. I spent the summer watching him play a transgender woman, a character with incredible care and precision and obsession with meter and time on Mr. Robot and here he is again, hamming it up as Dr Strange, with ease.
–“You had to come back didn’t you?” “Like a bad penny” I can’t stand Fish anymore but I laughed at this little Harvey/Fish exchange.
–Fish’s explanation for leaving Penguin alive was at least interesting and I like that they connected back to Strange’s own God Complex.
–Alfred did a little twirl. Bless.
–Ooooh. Baby!Batman meets Baby!Clone!Batman
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–What decade is Gotham supposed to be set in?? It has computers and modern software but look at hairstyles of the reporters in the crowd–ladies sporting Victory Rolls–and the cameras are all 1940/1950s style. Add in some of the style choices of the women, gangsters, and Val’s very “plucky 1920s gumshoe” vibe and I am often confused when Gotham takes place.
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–No Nygma. This is never going to be okay.
–Of course Lee comes back to Gotham right as Jim and Mulan get closer. How cliche!
–Ivy’s story is so…outside of the rest of the narrative. And she’s such a peripheral character (on this show at least) that it’s hard to care about her, especially when they are going to sex her up.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"LIKED
—Props to David Mazouz for the opening scene with Catherine. Usually “Baby!Batman is in danger!” scenes annoy me because nothing is going to happen to him, as we all well know, and so the stakes are never really there but this scene was more like a chess game than putting him in mortal danger.
Yes. Join the Dark (Knight) Side.
–Mulan and Jim have more chemistry together than Jim ever had with Lee or Barbara.
No kidding.
–Alfred did a little twirl. Bless.
I’m wondering if Bruce learning to dance may apply to his future as Batman.
–Ooooh. Baby!Batman meets Baby!Clone!Batman
Honestly, I’m surprised this happened so soon.
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–What decade is Gotham supposed to be set in?? It has computers and modern software but look at hairstyles of the reporters in the crowd–ladies sporting Victory Rolls–and the cameras are all 1940/1950s style. Add in some of the style choices of the women, gangsters, and Val’s very “plucky 1920s gumshoe” vibe and I am often confused when Gotham takes place.
It’s nonspecific. I like to to say it DOES take place in the Super Legends of Flarrowverse, albeit on Earth-2 (which is similarly anachronistic*), in the 80s or 90s.
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–Of course Lee comes back to Gotham right as Jim and Mulan get closer. How cliche!
For reasons unknown, TV writers and network execs like their love triangles. Audiences don’t. I blame The Office, but it probably dates back farther.
–Ivy’s story is so…outside of the rest of the narrative. And she’s such a peripheral character (on this show at least) that it’s hard to care about her, especially when they are going to sex her up.
Um, yeah. At least she didn’t use a venom-kiss to kill Mr. Truck Driver. But that scene at his house was creepy.
*Which would be a great word for the podcast, by the way.
I like to to say it DOES take place in the Super Legends of Flarrowverse, albeit on Earth-2 (which is similarly anachronistic*), in the 80s or 90s.
Oh I like that idea!
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"1×03 Thoughts?
General: Overall I really liked this episode. Maybe my favorite of the season. Stories are progressing, there’s intrigue and weirdness but also fun (of the non campy type).
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–The opening scene was awesome.
–Overall, I really like how they’re doing Mad Hatter. He’s always been a bit of an immature villain, more childlike than adult. But so delusional and crazy!
–Penguin running for office makes a ton of sense–he’s already a corrupt mobster with power over the seedy underbelly of the city. Might as well have power over the whole of the city next.
–Normally I don’t care about anything that revolves around Baby!Batman and Baby!Catwoman because I hate the idea of putting children into romantic entanglements, even if it’s just foreshadowing established canon, but the friendship between these two is really sweet and slowly growing on me. I like that when Selena lost her friend, her first move was to go to Bruce for both aid and comfort and Bruce don’t try any sort of macho “I’ll find her!” act, he just simply listens.
–“She’s a bit sensitive to rejection…”
–Everything that is Nygma and Penguin. “Hello, old friend.” I about died of laughter the way Penguin slid out the window
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–As much sense as it does make…less than 24 hours after announcing his bid for the Mayorship, Penguin has an entire field office up and running including balloons and a banner!
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–Baby!Clone!Batman is named “5” because “11” was already taken, right?
–Why is everyone in Wayne Manor always doing things by candlelight at night?? They do have electricity.
–Oh for the love of…Mario is the son of Don Falcone and Lee doesn’t find this troubling at all?
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"I loved this episode. This is probably the best I’ve seen in a while.
Liked:
– The Mad Hatter. He’s a little too over the top and loopy in some of the comics for my liking. But this felt like a darker more realistic version. Something Christopher Nolan would have done if he had Tetch in one of his batman movies. Great casting, costume looks good.
– The scene where Tetch has that guy kill his wife……so creepy. That was so good.
– Yay, Falcone is back. Lee is an idiot for not thinking twice about A. coming back to gotham, B. working at the GCPD again with Jim running around, and C. Marrying Falcone’s son. But I don’t care how dumb she is. I loved Falcone in season 1. Calculated, but not over the top, has a soft human side, but also can be your worst nightmare. Love him.
– No Fish Mooney….I used to love her. She’s way too over the top now and I lost interest as soon as she gained her magical power. She should have died when she took that tumble from Penguin. So yay for her not being in this.
– The way Penguin popped out of the window. Oh man, I did the same thing RG. Giggled with glee. Hooray for Penguin and Riddler teaming up again.
– Valerie and Jim do have great chemistry. Valerie really did have a good time…..you could see it in her face, although she tried to cover it up. Mulan, I want your happy ending but I’m not sure I want you to get it with a stressed out bounty hunter.
– The scene where Bruce grabs Selina’s hand. Awww..
Mixed:
– Penguin running for mayor. Isn’t this the Batman Returns plot with Danny Devito? I don’t hate it, but it just makes me think they have nothing for Penguin to do.
– Bruce’s clone. I mean, this is whatever. The actor is doing well with it but I’m just not sure where they are going with this. What is Clone Bruce going to try and cop a feel in the car or something? Like I don’t know what the point of it is.
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– Penguin running for mayor. Isn’t this the Batman Returns plot with Danny Devito? I don’t hate it, but it just makes me think they have nothing for Penguin to do.
It’s tradition to have a “Penguin for Mayor” storyline. It’s like “President Luthor.”
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–Baby!Clone!Batman is named “5” because “11” was already taken, right?
Who’s on the five? Lincoln.
I like to to say it DOES take place in the Super Legends of Flarrowverse, albeit on Earth-2 (which is similarly anachronistic*), in the 80s or 90s.
Oh I like that idea!
Another reason I cite is all the adaptational villainy.
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